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Effect of Brexit

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Davylad, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. yorkshirehornet

    yorkshirehornet Well-Known Member

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    I noticed that you misquoted the Guardian article too when you included it SH. I realised it when I bought the paper to see... Can't give you the exact evidence now as at my clinic.
    Would be so much better if you stopped smearing and stayed with the facts.

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  2. superhorns

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    They were the facts as seen by the Guardian.

    Labour centrists express fury about Momentum's Christine Shawcroft taking over key party post - Politics live

    How about this Guardian warning about Momentum


    Labour faces subversion by Momentum and far left ... - The Guardian
     
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  3. yorkshirehornet

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    Oh.. Maybe the print version had a different edit then.. It had no thing about reacting with fury etc... More even handed.

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  4. superhorns

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    Can you trust the Guardian?
     
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  6. oldfrenchhorn

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    Why are we paying @EmmanuelMacron £45m and taking more migrants at the same time? That’s not a deal - it’s a humiliating capitulation by @theresa_may.

    Who do you agree with SH? Theresa May or Sir Nigel Farage.
     
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  7. superhorns

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    You have a very short memory indeed.

    It is actually, to borrow a phrase, the cheese eating surrender monkeys who have reverted to type and capitulated. Last year there was lots of froth and bluster from senior French politicians Macron Juppe, etc and a few remoaners on here, about the forthcoming renegotiation of the Le Touquet agreement. This included plans to remove the border from French soil and move it to Kent.

    In reality the UK has spent hundreds of millions already maintaining this border so another £45 million is small change along with taking a few more migrants. Nothing has basically changed.
     
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  8. colognehornet

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    Can we try to reduce the use of negative national stereotypes used SH. and try to debate in a more adult fashion ? It is hardly surprising that Britain has never really worked as a cooperative partner in the EU. when people like you (and so many other Brexiters) have such negative ideas about the French, Germans and others.
     
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  9. superhorns

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    The words 'French' and "capitulation' in the same sentence do seem to have been used quite a lot in history.
     
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    I suggest you start to realize that the World did not stop in 1945 - your 'picture' of the World appears to be rooted in this era. Do we need reminding that the French soldiers belonged to the best of the World in the 1914-18 War and during the Napoleonic Wars ? France was a deeply divided nation in 1939 - with a Fascism of its own to contend with and with the same weaponry as it had had in 1918 - it was also not protected by water as was the case with Britain. Europe really does not need people like you for the future - and it is certainly better in many ways that you (and many other Brexiters) are leaving - we don't need you ! It is however tragic that you are dragging Scotland, Ulster, the North of England and the youth of the country along your xenophobic one way journey.
     
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  12. superhorns

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    No, I'm very fond of Europe, I love French bread and German beer.!!!!
     
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    Looks to me that the Knighthood for Farage is further off of the SH radar than it was yesterday as he doesn't agree that "it’s a humiliating capitulation". What we witnessed yesterday was one leader stating facts, and the other avoiding questions, reverting to the programmed catch phrases. I am afraid that it shows up that there can be access to only some of the cake if payment is made, but no matter what offers of payment are made some of the best bits will not be available to a third country.
     
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  14. superhorns

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    It was a "humiliating capitulation" but by the French instead. The previous bluster, echoed on here, turned out to be all hot air. The Macron boy is free to utter his views only to backtrack again when the grown ups get involved.
     
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    I don't think that your hero quite saw it that way. :emoticon-0120-doh:
     
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    UKIP and Farage have contributed enormously to the UK's escape from the shaky but looming EU superstate but their usefulness to the UK is now extremely limited. UKIP should fold and Farage should concentrate on making his personal fortune. Of course he can be wheeled out as Trump's mate if we need him to help with any UK- US trade issues.
     
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  17. colognehornet

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    Amazing how the same thing can be seen in so many different ways. Just like football fans - goals for our own club are brilliant, goals for the opposition are either offside, unfair or lucky. We are the same with politics.
     
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  18. Toby

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    Their voters could just go back to voting BNP.

    If you think Trump gives 2 ****s about Farage then you're even more stupid than I previously thought. They have the same paymasters, that's all.
     
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  19. superhorns

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    I have just watched last night's This Week. The general agreement was the £45 million UK contribution was "a bargain". Quite a long way from the previous nonsense of moving borders from senior French politicians and some on here.
     
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    No, the far left and far right do not have the support in the UK as they have in many EU countries. UKIP's votes will mostly revert back to the Tories, some to Labour.
     
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