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Breakfast Wednesday

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Doc, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Lasogga picked up an injury at exactly the wrong time, let him get back to form and he'll be an asset ... Lasogga can't be brilliant every game, Allan Clarke certainly wasn't ... all this impatience with our club is baffling ... Radz is right not to talk about transfers, it's his and the club's business and deals should only be made public once they are done

    I laugh when people go on about signing Hugill, Jerome and Martin ... seriously, they are not prolific strikers, and if it's goals we want they are not the answer ... Hugill will have an overly inflated fee, Jerome and Martin very high wages ... Lasogga when he's motoring is a real threat and he can still do it for us, let him get his fitness back ... another one that I just don't get is Clayton, a decent player but not better than Vieira, and will also be on big wages

    I am happy to let Leeds get on with doing what they feel is right, and then supporting whoever they may bring in this month ... I just want there to be full on support for Radz and his team so that we can continue to build on the positive Summer we had ... no more headless Cellino and his diabolical "leadership" making us the laughing stock of football ... we have signed talented players, we need to support them and help them to realise their potential

    I watched quite a bit of Grot before he came to Leeds ... he was excellent for NEC, but was mostly used wide right and his devastation was cutting inside and driving into the box ... he was used in the same way by Holland U19s and was always threatening ... Grot is a GENUINE talent, but people need to understand that he is still only 19, has moved to a new country and needs time to settle ... barracking the lad is the worst thing Leeds fans can do, it is counter productive

    Sacko is another talent, and we have seen what he is capable of when he gets it right ... his pace destroys defenders, and he will grow into a fine asset for this club, but again people need to be patient with him as he is also still a kid ... we need to let these rough diamonds grow, not demand instant success

    I have also seen a lot of De Bock at Club Brugge, and he is another excellent talent that I was very surprised we have managed to get for just £1.5m ... this is an amazing bit of business, and if he is allowed to settle he will become an important player for Leeds ... I fear that he makes one error and the fans will be all over him, damaging his confidence ... look at Wiedwald, he should NEVER have been dropped for Lonergan but the fans hounded him out on social media and Tommy bowed to the pressure ... Lonergan proceeded to cost us a bunch of points, and the fans shut up and said nothing ... that is typical of cowards, not having the courage to say they were wrong

    now we have the bubble against Wiedwald starting up again, calling him erratic, yet there is no evidence of this ... Wiedwald somehow became the scapegoat for Green leaving, why I don't know ... Green was only here for one season, and the first half was diabolical, with the points he surrendered effectively contributing to Leeds missing out on the playoffs ... then, when he was challenged to fight Wiedwald for his place he chose to fcuk off into obscurity at Huddersfield of all places ... Taylor and Wood got hell for deciding to leave, Green deserves the same because he could have stood up and showed some guts

    Leeds fans seem to always want to find fault with the club, and if there's an easy target even better ... they applaud utter tripe players like Michael Brown and Andy Hughes, both fcuking statues in midfield but players who knew how to kick an opponent ... the trend continues with Kalvin Phillips, another player who is dead slow, is lazy and far too often gives the ball away, but when it comes to kicking an opponent he does the business ... yes, Bremner was a hard nut, but boy could he play, and his first quality was his ability to control the midfield and get the team going forward ... Leeds fans seem to think his legacy should be that of an "enforcer", and they clearly want more of those "characters" in the team ... that's why there is the love for Berardi, although he is an average full back at best

    Leeds fans need to wake up and realise that we have a really good man in charge of the club now, and he is trying to lay the foundations for a stable, successful future ... I have no doubt that Radz will make changes if he believes something's not working, but the key is that he won't make rash decisions ... fcuk me, how can we forget Hockaday being made manager of Leeds United and walking in the footsteps of The Don simply because he "spoke beautifully about football" ... be patient, let Radz do his thing and let's keep building
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Radellino has been doing his thing for a year now, the last six months without Cellinos input if you want to believe that. On the basis that the only thing that matters is the first team we are worse than when he took over and showing no signs of improving.
     
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  3. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    Same quote just put on transfer thread but from Phil Hay. He says player would prefer Leeds.
     
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  5. leeds60

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    So TC has realised we need a central midfield player who has been about a bit and at £2.5m is not expensive and whats more they think he prefers Leeds to Cardiff so they are expecting him to sign tomorrow we shall wait and seeI know nothing about the lad perhaps Matt can fill me in or Doc
     
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  6. Doc

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    Foreshaw known as a safe pair of hands. Left Everton on loan to Brentford back in 2012, signed for Beentford later and played 100games for them under Mark Warburton. Won league 1 player of the year in 2013/14 and a fixture in league 1 team of the week/season. Rosler paid £2.5m for him to go toWigan to try and save them. Middlesboro paid £2m on a 3.5 year deal. Orta obviously knows him and was afavourite of Karanka. He breaks up play and pushes forward. Hes also a penalty taker when asked. Pulis playing a sifferent system since he arrived so Clayton and Foreshaw seen as surplus because Pulis been told to sell if you want to buy
     
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  7. w.c.dukenfieldesq

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    Is he any better than what we've got?
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

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    Hes bound to be <ok>
     
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  9. ristac

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    Was wondering the exact same myself. Reading Wiki about him and looking up as much as I could find I’d have to say maybe better than O’Kane but behind Phillips and Vieira?

    The danger with this signing is... Is this an Orta decision or a Thomas one? What use is a defensive midfielder who sits behind Phillips, O’Kane and Vieira in the pecking order...
     
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  10. lifecheshirewhite

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    Don't remember any of there's being better when we beat them.<whistle>
     
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    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Anyone can have a bad day. Important thing is to not keep having them as tc will might eventually figure out <ok>
     
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  12. ristac

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    Footage a bit old now...
     
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    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe if its a Thomas one it might be a relief. Orta hasnt exactly set the world on fire with his so maybe TC can do better
     
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  14. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Looks nothing special going forward, decent penalty taker though
     
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  15. ristac

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    By all accounts he is a carbon copy of Phillips, someone to break up play. O’Kane has been very hot and cold, Klitch hasn’t worked and Vieira has struggled injury wise so I don’t mind this signing if it happens. No getting used to the Championship, can hit the ground running.

    It depends on what we are doing on the striker front, I’d rather every spare penny be spent ensuring we get someone who can bag us some goals.

    Just had a horrible thought when remembering we’ve signed the Japanese guy too, I hope Vieira hasn’t indicated he wants out either now or come The end of season.
     
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  16. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Strange post that Billy. On the one hand you berate the fans for their treatment of Grot and Sacko and then go on an assassination of Berardi and Phillips.
     
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  17. ellandback

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    Only if I can act as his agent
     
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  18. Whitejock

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    Funny you should say that - I wondered aloud if the same thing had happened with Ayling. Forgot Soggy had had a baby. Might well be something in that.
     
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  19. Doc

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    The video shows an attacking midfielder so maybe post Brentford he was taught a different role? Looks like a solid experienced performer as he has won promotion to the prem, played in the prem so will eat this league and knows what its about. Probably a better head on him than both Phillips and Viera (As long as O'Kane has sorted his head out) My only concern is that Pullis has decided that his best midfield has Howson ahead of Foreshaw and Clayton?
     
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  20. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Are you going to bed to sleep, Ell? Reason I ask is that one of my old bosses was similarly afflicted with Asthma, and was in & out of hospital. In his bad spells at home, he used to sleep in a comfy armchair. Got a lot more sleep that way as it didn't seem to irritate the asthma so much. He swore by it.

    You could also ask the doc for these 30mg cocodomol painkillers I'm on. They knock you feckin' bandy within 15 mins. My doc refuses to take them himself because of the effect, and he's a big fear-nothing lump of a rugby player.

    Alternately, watch Millwall games on YouTube - that'll help. Then again, it'll prolly be more exhausting trying to actually find one on YouTube.

    Get well soon (as though you had a choice in the matter! :D ).
     
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