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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    who will be in charge of deciding if either sides sloganeering was true or not
    assuming it wasn't only the leavers putting out misinformation and outright lies for the dimwitted racists
     
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  2. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Can't see it Stroller, too many people like me would kick up a fuss. Farage's words were taken too seriously. I think he probably loves the limelight and needed something to keep the interest up. Besides, the Europeans don't want us to have another referendum. I seriously think they will be happy to see the back of us. We moan too much for them. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    It seems to me there is a growing anti-Brexit momentum now, which is why Farage is spooked. The justification for a further referendum is becoming undeniable. Then you can start your moaning.
     
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  4. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Cant agree with that
    Too many MP's wouldn't want to risk their jobs trying to have another referendum. There would be mayhem if it went to another vote. Civil disorder. It will never happen. Just a load of paper talk and a few voices in the public eye.
    Take it from another angle...If we had gone to the negotiations in a strong united way the EU would have respected us and lost their bottle re-negotiations. Now we have a divided nation we can never have the same level of respect/power/clout at the EU table. The EU would take the P out of us if we went back now.
    Ain't gonna happen.
    What needs to happen now is the whole country needs to get behind this and move forward.
    TBH I have said all along that the house of cards (EU) will come tumbling down because they will never change. Hopefully, a new organization will come out of the ashes. A good European trade block without all the Stars/coins/army/integration/Brussels.
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Another referendum?
    please log in to view this image
     
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  6. Stroller

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    Civil disorder, blood in the streets! You sound like Goldie now. The 'whole country' is not behind this, and we need a rethink.
     
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  7. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Goldie is right. Not people like me but many others who will not accept it.
    as Nigel would say...
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    It will never happen
     
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  8. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Oh, but it might. You seem a bit scared, Ellers. Don't be, it's just democracy.
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

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    Maybe you could have Zimbabwe style Eu election scrutineers
     
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  10. seagullhoop

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    Maybe we could vote on the actual deal?

    That way things like - 'there is no question of us leaving the Single Market' until the penny drops that it's dependent on freedom of movement would't be an issue.

    Surely you're in favour of accountability?
     
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  11. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    That's one thing the EU doesn't believe in, it's some 20 years since they last signed off certified accounts. The Gravy Train stops for no-one...
     
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  12. seagullhoop

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    Don't kid yourself... all politics is a gravy train... leaving the EU is only likely to increase the opportunity for profiteering as the country drifts towards a deregulated, low-tax, low-pay sweatshop controlled by non-dom ideologues and billionaires.
     
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  13. Uber_Hoop

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    Yeah, but it won’t be all good though.
     
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  14. Sooperhoop

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    Started by that great Europhile Tony Blair...
     
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  15. rangercol

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    A bit like your comment on the "un-educated" voting to leave, you clearly feel way above me intellectually. I'll leave you to it.
     
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  16. Star of David Bardsley

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    I don’t know why you have to take things personally. Leave voters on average were less educated than Remain voters. It’s not an insult and it’s explained to an extent by the average ages of both camps. It doesn’t mean all Leave supporters are less educated than all Remain supporters.
     
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    Are you ever gonna answer Col’s question clearly or am I reading this thread in vain ?
     
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    It comes over as pretty insulting, to be fair
     
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    I don't think he is mate.
     
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    They don't get it mate.
     
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