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Ipswich Town v Leeds Utd /Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Jan 10, 2018.

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SCORELINE:Ipswich Town v Leeds Utd

Poll closed Jan 13, 2018.
  1. 0-0

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  2. 1-1

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  3. 2-2 or higher

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  4. Ipswich by 1

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  5. Leeds by 1

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  6. Ipswich by 2

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  7. Leeds by 2

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  8. Ipswich by 3 oe more

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  9. Leeds by 3 or more

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  1. milkyboy

    milkyboy Well-Known Member

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    Dunno but it puts the wind up me
     
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  2. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    Grayson - Was time for a change
    McDermott - Out
    Redfearn - Should never have been offered
    Evans - Kept
    Monk - Out
     
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  3. Clive Time

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    Why did you not just say out for Grayson and I think it's bizarre that you wanted Steve Evans to stay.
     
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  4. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Is it only me that doesn’t genuinely have a problem with one poster on here. Don’t agree with some but agree with the variety of ****e and even the wind ups. The football is pretty average at the moment so the variety of opinions here serves as a nice distraction. For the record, don’t want anyone banned or whatever
     
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  5. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    I think some of your posts are bizarre but I just ignore them <ok>

    Grayson, he got us promoted, we beat Man U in the cup and a replay against Spurs, he took the cup seriously and still got us promoted, none of this “must concentrate on the league bollocks”.

    Evans had an awful team, no backing, players brought and sourced by Cellino yet he got those awful players doing okay. At the time under Cellino it would have been hard to get better, coaches were hardly queuing up to take control.
     
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  6. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Curious what you think about where we stand today Ristac. I can’t decide whether this is a hopeless squad that no manager could improve or if a proper manager could genuinely transform them. Option three is neither manager or squad is worth a damn at present
     
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  7. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    I’m ignoring a lot more posts than I used to, I find a couple (maybe just a bit more than a couple) of posters really tedious, how some of the threads turn even more so but hey, I’m only one opinion.
     
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  8. Clive Time

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    But if you wanted him out, you wanted him out. Why sugar coat it?

    The team under Evans wasn't that bad. Chris Wood and Dallas were not awful players. We had a better coach in Rosler, but the nutcase sacked him.
     
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  9. Clive Time

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    We're 7th in the league.

    Grayson and Monk were considered heroes for finishing 7th.

    Now it's either the squad or manager, or both, that are hopeless?

    All that's happened is expectations have been raised and so have standards.
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Grayson and Monk were supposedly hampered by **** owners so they did well to finish 7th. We now have supposedly best owner in decades so maybe we’re entitled to expect better than seventh. Rad himself said seventh this season would be a failure
     
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  11. ristac

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    Rads I’m fully behind, I still remember getting excited about the Luke Murphy signing - £1m fee the first time we spent that much in nearly 10 years, Rads is signing players in excess of this regularly.

    Scouting network, coaches, we’re being run like a proper club for a change but... I have major doubts about Orta, is he ill advising Rads? If he is then Rads is no fool and Orta won’t last.

    Thomas, I’m not sure about, we’ve seen what the second string can do, we’ve witnessed how poor our strikers are, get ANY PL manager to take charge of Leeds give them Roofe, Lasogga and Grot and I challenge them to improve things. Look at CBJ at Left back in the cup, a disgrace. Cibicki put in two good shows and now he is garbage and Sacko, say no more.

    I think Thomas is making errors but is that lack of skill, lack of Championship experience or is he jus been given rotten tomatoes?

    Get rid of Thomas and approach any top guy and say you have to work under a DOF and you can rule out many I’d like to see including Pearson or McCarthy. I’m hoping Rads has a change of direction with this approach.

    Rads has turned us into a proper club again, all getting more attractive for when a billionaire comes knocking.
     
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  12. Clive Time

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    Exactly, expectations have been raised. But if the squad is **** and the manager is **** then the owner is ****. The season isn't over, we could finish in the top 6.
     
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  13. Eireleeds1

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    <ok>
     
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  14. ristac

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    I wasn’t calling for Grayson to get sacked. When he went I understood why, I wouldn’t have minded if he had stayed, you asked were the same people calling for him to be sacked.
     
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  15. Clive Time

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    Cellino signed a lot of players for 7 figure fees.
     
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  16. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    Seem to remember most being loans or undisclosed fees myself. Okay signing players but dismantling everything else to do so, even had players bringing a pack lunch in.
     
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  17. Eireleeds1

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    Here’s a question. Why are our new signings never ready to hit the ground running. Jansson took weeks to get up to speed, the japs gone for six months, the Belgian not available today despite a drastic shortage of players. A whole host of signings from the summer that never seem to get up to speed. Lasogga in and out doing the Hokey Cokey. Why are they never ready for first team action. I don’t buy into the theory the Championship I’d do tough to adapt to
     
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  18. Clive Time

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    Undisclosed doesn't mean they were small fees. There are lots of things you can accuse Cellino of, but he spent money on players.
     
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    In post after post after post
     
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  20. Clive Time

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    How many posts are there saying Christiansen is **** and the players are **** and we'll do nothing this season?
     
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