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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Beef, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Wasn't it graham rix who went to jail for shagging a 15 year old?
     
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  2. fatletiss

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    Something of that nature, yes.
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    No I agree, I personally think you should only have native managers anyway but that's another debate.

    I don't even know why he'd want to go to Scotland either really.
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Not saying poaching like this is wrong per se, but feel uncomfortable in this case. Poor Northern Ireland. It is only a theoretical upgrade.....will still struggle to qualify for tournaments and get more angst about it. Perhaps he feels the need for a change and the money is better. :(
     
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  6. PompeyLapras

    PompeyLapras Well-Known Member

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    It happens all the time in domestic football, why is international football any different?

    And the manager of an international team should be the best candidate available at the time, regardless of nationality.
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I think they should be native personally. In the same sense that the team is made up of the pick of players from that nation I think the manager should be the best you can get from your nation.
     
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  8. PompeyLapras

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    Hardly fair on nations like the Maldives with small populations, and nations like England with crap managers though.
     
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  9. Libby

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    Perhaps England should work on producing better coaches then. Not sure what population has to do with it, couldn't you make that argument for players too?
     
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  10. Number 1 Jasper

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    No . I agree as well . As TLL has said , players are picked on that basis , so should Managers . Sad for my national team though .

    Remember this ?

    It's what it SHOULD all be about , but money is killing sport .


     
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  11. PompeyLapras

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    A small population means a smaller pool of managers (and players) to choose from. When there's a larger pool, all things equal, standards will tend to be higher because there's way way more competition to get coaching jobs or playing jobs, so you have to be good because you're competing against so many more people. It's the same reason why women's football is at a relatively lower standard than men's football (or one of the reasons), because the pool of players (and teams) is so much lower. That's evident by the fact that the third tier is regional in women's football, in men's football the sixth tier is regional. It's also why teams like Iceland and Trinidad & Tobago qualifying for the world cup is such a huge achievement.

    I agree we need to produce better coaches.

    In an ideal world, that would be the case. You're right that's what it should be about, but... unfortunately there are so few feasible candidates in England (partly due to money killing football), idealism isn't necessarily the best option.
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah smaller countries have a smaller pool of people to choose from... Still don't understand your point though.

    Again if that's your reasoning you could say the same for players.
     
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    Scotland should develop their own managers and choose someone who spent most of his playing and managing career in the Scottish leagues.
     
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  14. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps they'd prefer someone who knew abut football. :bandit:
     
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    'See how chocolate melts in the sun'
     
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  16. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Is that the official account? <yikes>

    Good job it's not from a nation hosting a world cup soon or anything...
     
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  17. PompeyLapras

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    My point is, it pays to be pragmatic. It's not the same with players because eligibility is based on nationality. That's not the case for managers. Plus, a lot of nations do try to get players of dual citizenship to choose to play for them even if they didn't grow up in the country or were in born there.
     
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  18. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    That's what I think should change though... This is the whole discussion <laugh>
     
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  19. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

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    Sadly yep
     
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    I saw that earlier . to sad for words .
     
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