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Effect of Brexit

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Davylad, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. Toby

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    With the added bonus of chlorinated chicken, a privatised NHS and other handouts we'll have to offer other countries out of desperation <ok>
     
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  2. oldfrenchhorn

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    Different rules for France and the UK is what you are saying. I think you should get back to your brick laying course and clear the mind a bit.
     
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  3. superhorns

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    Our Dr Fox is travelling the world negotiating new bilateral free trade deals with scores of countries where the real growth is. This is quite different to the Macron boy desperately trying to recover from being the most unpopular French President ever.
     
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  4. colognehornet

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    You are arguing like a football fan here. All goals for the opposition are a) Offside b) Had an offence leading up to them c) Lucky ricochets d) Not important or e) the result of schoolboy defending - any one of these. All goals that we score qualify for goal of the season. Macron and Fox do the same thing - Macron comes back with a deal, Fox with little more than a bowl of rice.
     
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    You also are confused between a bilateral free trade deal and a normal trade deal. There is a massive difference between the two.
     
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  6. Toby

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    https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/does-brexit-end-not-with-bang-but.html

    Well written blog about the next step in Brexit negociations. It ends with this line that I think sums it up very well.

    The vote that rules them all today will gradually be seen not as the liberation and empowerment that so many now believe, but instead as just the machinations of a small number of hollow men. Hollow men who dream of empire renewed, and as a result are casting their country from the world stage. Hollow men who dream of personal power, and who instead turn out to be powerless. Their day will soon pass, as wind in dry grass.
     
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    Typical whinging remoaner blog.
     
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  8. superhorns

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    Farage has called for a second referendum - silly boy.
     
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  9. Toby

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    Too many words for you? Not enough BOLD statements?

    Stick to your hate-filled comics <ok>
     
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  10. colognehornet

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    The only sensible thing that Farage has ever said. He had himself said before the referendum that a 52%-48% win for remain would be 'unfinished business' - now he has realized that it cuts 2 ways. Until we get a clear result in one direction then this fiasco will continue. Every judge in this country can ask for the jury to go away and reconsider its decision - is there anything undemocratic about that ? By the time Britain actually ends up leaving the EU. it will be around 3 years after the initial referendum - the electorate will have changed and the consequences will be better known - to then leave at a time when opinion may be against it would be a crime against democracy. All of the polls show that the majority now want a second referendum - I just hope that Corbyn realizes this.
     
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    Corbyn knows full well that many traditional Labour supporters voted to end 'free movement'. They would be awfully cross if their preferred political party colluded to deny their leave result which was delegated by parliament to them in a massive show of democracy.
     
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    A much better way to treat the 'whinging and whining' by remoaners is to just simply ignore it.
     
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    Currently Corbyn is hedging his bets - according to recent polls over 80% of Labour supporters are in favour of a second referendum, so it may be a risk worth taking. You do not know why some Labour voters went for Brexit - you are not a mind reader. It may just be that they came from the hard left and thought they were following in the traditions of Michael Foot and Tony Benn, who were both anti EU. Democracy is not a 'static' thing - it was created to respond to changing circumstances, and changing opinion. The one thing I will say is that if there is a second referendum - then we should have compulsory voting for it, because this is far too important an issue to be decided by non voters.
     
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    The message from the Labour Party is extremely muddled on Brexit, they are completely unable to agree on a united policy.
     
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    What a vile little weasel Farage is

    The former Ukip leader suggested another poll would ultimately kill off the campaign for Brexit to be reversed, which is championed by remainers such as Tony Blair, Andrew Adonis and Nick Clegg.

    Speaking on Channel 5’s The Wright Stuff, he said: “My mind is actually changing on all this. What is for certain is that the Cleggs, the Blairs, the Adonises will never, ever, ever give up. They will go on whinging and whining and moaning all the way through this process.

    “So maybe, just maybe, I’m reaching the point of thinking that we should have a second referendum on EU membership … unless you want to have a multiple choice referendum, which would confuse people. I think that if we had a second referendum on EU membership we would kill it off for a generation.
     
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    He did nothing other than whinge, whine and moan about the EU. before the referendum - would he have stopped afterwards if the result had gone the other way ? I doubt it.

    This does mean that SH is running out of heroes to worship - he was up for a knighthood once.
     
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    Just imagine what his reaction would be if, after the 2nd referendum he asked for, Brexit lost...

    He might have actually realised what an awful idea it was in the first place <laugh>
     
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    Farage should have been awarded a knighthood for services to Queen and Country. The Queen obviously prefers the Commonwealth rather than the garlic munching Johnny foreigners in Europe.
     
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  19. colognehornet

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    You mean the 'Johnny foreigners' who include well over half her relatives - she is biologically related to nearly all the remaining monarchies in Europe, besides being mostly 'European' herself.
     
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    I think she gets the terminology from Philip the Hun.
     
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