Off Topic The Environment

Can we get back onto topic which is about environmental issues? It is quite easy to get distracted, but unless you try and keep some structure to the forum, no one knows where to look for something that interests them.

 

So the essential environmental question is this: Does a burning car give off more, or less, emissions than if it continued to pollute the atmosphere going about its daily business ? - I suspect less. However - this would not make the torching of a car an environmental act because the owner would simply use the insurance money to get another one. Generally I would celebrate the removal of cars from the roads but not through these methods. All of these techno fix solutions eg. electric cars etc. will not work - they just strengthen the illusion that we can go on producing, consuming etc. just with other technology. They just try to solve the problems created by one technology with another - there can be no technological solution. At least as far as private transportation is concerned, there can be no other solutions than a return to public transport (on the one hand), and, to question whether a journey is necessary on the other hand. If you ever have an aerial view of a big city then you will be shocked by how much space is taken up by cars - an alien would think they were the dominant life form on this planet.

 

Thank you.....

Environmental issues are global....

Note all the problems with all types of pollution in International waters etc.... this is why we need global solutions

 

We need both global solutions but also local ones Yorkie. You can think globally but you can only act locally, and it is action which is needed. It is up to each individual, and each locality to work out its own Carbon Footprint and to produce a plan for reducing it - wait for World Government and you will wait forever. Towns or communities must work on breaking their reliance on globally driven financial and energy systems and work more towards self sufficiency. We must carve out a future which is no longer based on growth, ever increasing production, consumption and trade.

 

Agreed... yet I fear that without international agreements many countries limit what they do.....

 

This is appalling. I used to work with USA closely on these issues and they were more pro sustainable fishing than most - and paid shed loads of money to help certain countries improve their infrastructures and move away from questionable fishing practices. To renege on this now is depressing beyond belief. Price of everything value of nothing

 

So true............................

 

I've just made two cups with ours, great coffee.

 

Can't you keep your pathetic trolling to the Politics thread?

 

sure it is good coffee.... but you completely ignore the point.............

The very reason we use so many resources, many of which cannot be recycled is for so called 'convenience'


This google search with give you plenty to read up on this subject:


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=n...x-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=9MBUWsLkC-uA8QfMt4WIBQ

 

Or possibly, shut up altogether and give us all a break.

 

The other loser has now spoken.

 

I see nothing much has changed on here - short on facts and long on bullshit.
We have one of those coffee machines and I send back all of the used capsules for recycling, it's the reason that I still buy the capsules from the makers. It's a little more expensive, but when I place the next order they will pick up a big bag of used capsules at the same time for recycling.
I don't know how you carry on with taking the abuse from the two faced cliché on here...

 

Hi, good to hear from you.

Yes, not much has changed, the clique still dominate proceedings with views that are completely unrepresented in UK politics and Brexit. I must have a very thick skin but am quite used to the abuse now. It is actually very funny when they champion hurdles against Brexit only for these to fail every time.

 

I suggest that rather than the kick and run tactics you are using ie. turning up, firing insults, and then disappearing that you stay and actually argue your case on something W_Y

 

Thanks for the info, I was unaware about this recycling scheme because we get through quite a lot of these as the coffee is excellent. I will contact them.

A worthwhile environmental post without the usual chest beating.

 

How I love the efforts that our President is putting into environmental projects. Latest visit sees him in China attempting a sentence in Mandarin. Where do I breathe he is heard to say. That was a foretaste of what could happen unless we all get to clean our act up.

 

What do they think of his cowboy outfit and make up?

 

He was suited and looked like a proper politician, rather more than you can say about the ragbag the UK employs to represent them on foreign trips.

 

Did he try his silly handshake on Xi Jinping?