Match Day Thread Liverpool v Everton (FA Cup)

I can't really argue with you if you see them both the same (they are not though), I just think you need to look at them as incidents in games involving teams you have never heard of and see what your assessment is then.

 

Is it as bad as calling Ashley Cole "a choc ice"?

Of course not, players call eachother "bastard" on a regular basis(amongst other things), if we take the literal meaning of bastard at face value it would mean something similar to "daughter/son of a whore", but as we live in a modern world things said aren't always taken literally, unless you're a fan of a rival desperately looking for something that's not there.

 

I agree with most of what you say but the minute "sexual discrimination" was mentioned Chelsea had lost.

 

30 court cases? Really, not sure what is going on but that is very unusual for an SME unless of course you own a company that is much larger? As for only losing one out of thirty, did you have a staring role in the film The devils advocate?

 

Correct, how often have you heard of "son of a bitch" being used as sexual discrimination?

 

Really don't get how all the talk can be about Holgate's reaction following the incident. Who gives a fu<k what Firmino said to him, Holgate could have seriously injured Firmino, why aren't we focussing on that. Ridiculous challenge.

As for what Firmino said, he did it in the referees face ffs, so the 'probe' into the incident should be quick. Sadly there wont be a probe into the actual incident of shoving Firmino into the hoardings.

 

Okay, I'll bite, let's say a British player signs for a south American team, during a game he isn't happy with the tackle an opponent has made, he shouts at the player in question "you dirty ****ing ****", did he really mean "you unwashed penetrated vagina"?

 

Believe me, it is far from unusual, many customers don't like paying for repairs once you get them up and running and will try all kinds of things to get out of paying.

 

In meaning yes, but son of a bitch is fairly mild in English, whereas - as I understand it at least - puta madre is far more offensive in Spanish (and presumably Portuguese).

 

I knew this was where you were steering the convo. That we were somehow accepting a same situation while condemning another Talking about comparing different situations lol.

The names may be equally offensive but the situations are completely different.

The court case that Chelsea avoided had in the end nothing to do with what Mourinho initially called Eva. It was the employers (chelsea) actions or inaction that contravened employment law that lead to the charge of constructive dismissal...which they apologised for. If the employer had disciplined their line manager (mourinho) for inappropriate behaviour..the name calling ...sent him on a course whatever (my previous employment it would have been close to firing offence mind) and that was it...no case to answer.

The fact that not only did they not discipline Mourinho they allowed him to compound his initial error by engaging in further bullying behaviour towards an employee under his duty of care? THAT'S what the case was really about and what Chelsea ended up admitting and paying for. Not the name calling....what happened after.

As for tonight? My convention analogy is as good as any.

If the company (lfc) has it in code of conduct that you don't call rival employees names during business hours? Displine appropriately.

If the convention organisers (FA) have rules about behaviour towards/between all those invited to convention? Act on that rule.


But they aren't remotely comparable situations....not even close

 

You are right with quite a lot of that

 

Ok


On the match...i might have been a little (only a little) harsh on Can. Only player that has started all 5 games over the Xmas period.

He can still **** off to Juve though because he just isn't that good and I don't think he ever will be in PL conditions.

 

Holgate's a disgrace ... and a little pussy ass bitch

 

Odd that the pen was given for a push in the back then wasn't it?
And before you do your usual trick of arguing with anything and everything, the ref clearly indicated for a push when he awarded the pen.

 

OK

 

Imo, both were soft and neither were pens.
But that's just my opinion.

 

And that is why we have a forum

I happen to think they were both quite soft but can see more in one than the other, not really both the same.

 

That's just ridiculous, Page.

A British player in a South American team.