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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    Yes but the point is that at the moment it's voluntary if you wish to opt out. So no one is stopped from working more if they want to but no one is forced to work more to keep their job if they don't want to. That would be the change.
     
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  3. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    You have always been able to opt out, and it’s the Tory governments refusal to confirm they will keep the opt out And other worker rights.
    Remember this is the same Tory party that illegally started making people pay £1200 before you could bring an unfair dismissal case against an employer.
    Happily the European court corrected the injustice.
     
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    To be fair, that is funny <laugh><laugh>
     
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  5. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    Of which bit?
     
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    It would be in the contract you sign when you take the job.If you don't want to work more don't sign a contract agreeing to work more.
     
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  7. lifecheshirewhite

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    Why not post the government proof for all of it,should be easy enough as I'm sure you didn't gust make it up.
     
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  8. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing you meant this post?


    10,000 EU nationals who work for the NHS have left since Brexit which is an increase of 22% on last year and 42% on the year previously.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society...h-workers-have-quit-the-nhs-since-brexit-vote


    And the number of people applying for NHS positions from the EU has reduced by 89%.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...s-registering-work-britain-falls-90-per-cent/


    And we currently have 40,000 nursing vacancies in the UK.

    https://fullfact.org/health/are-we-short-40000-nurses/


    Because 85% of EU immigrants were in work (paying taxes here) and the average age of the EU immigrant was 34 (compared to 41 for the native population) they have been big contributors rather than takers when it comes to the NHS.

    https://infacts.org/briefings/the-inflow-european-migration-into-britain/
     
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  9. lifecheshirewhite

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    So just chip paper [email protected]
     
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  10. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    No it would only be in the contract if you opt out as at the moment it's covered by working regulations. If those regulations change so could your existing contract.
     
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    Abolishing of EWD, H nd S legislation and other protections and chesh thinks this is good news...
     
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  12. lifecheshirewhite

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    Your contract is valid till you sign another,they can't impose anything unless you sign another.
     
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  13. Chippy / Glory

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    Only under current legislation, and even under that you can be served 12 weeks notice and it gets unilaterally changed.
     
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  14. lifecheshirewhite

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    No it doesn't,they can give 12 weeks notice and ask you to sign a new one,you can tell them to fook off.You can't be forced to accept any new contract,you have the right to refuse.
     
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  15. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    And in the real world where jobs as you keep telling us are so difficult to come by?
     
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  16. lifecheshirewhite

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    No loads of Jobs about,I haven't said any such thing.stop making it up.
     
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  17. dbc

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    This is taken from a standard contract template;

    1. Hours of work

    The Employee’s normal working hours are:


    Monday from to

    Tuesday from to

    Wednesday from to

    Thursday from to

    Friday from to

    Saturday from to

    Sunday from to


    This is a total of [Number]hours per week.


    The Employee may be required to work such further hours as may be necessary to fulfil his/her duties or the needs of the business. Whenever possible, [Responsible manager] will give the Employee reasonable notice of any additional hours.

    With the option of the following waiver
    [The Employee agrees that his/her average weekly working hours may be in excess of those prescribed by law (“the Waiver”). The Waiver will remain in force indefinitely but the Employee may give the Employer not less than three months’ notice in writing of his/her intention to terminate the Waiver.]




    However if the government remove the Working Time Regulations then this would be the significant part of the contract and your contract would remain unchanged but force you to work extra or be in breach of contract and lose your job

    The Employee may be required to work such further hours as may be necessary to fulfil his/her duties or the needs of the business. Whenever possible, [Responsible manager] will give the Employee reasonable notice of any additional hours.
     
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  18. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    If there are so many jobs why is immigration an issue.
     
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  19. lifecheshirewhite

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    Gridlocked roads,no houses,40 kids per class in schools.And the whole fookin worlds population won't fit in.
     
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  20. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    My eldest is a teacher. No class with more than 28 in it at her school.
    Gridlocked roads cos wagon drivers keep driving over cars while pissed.

    Www.rightmove.com. Loads of houses
     
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