Cmon Fez. FFS. The Allams have pushed away many many long time supporters who will never return. They have decimated the clubs support. Owners could change in 24 hours (ha!) and there would be a blip of a few hundred, maybe thousand on the next attendance. But let's all not get carried away. If they go, which is unlikely, supporters will not come flooding back. Far from it.
So after the first meeting, hoped that things might be changing. They're not. The above is the same old smoke and mirrors crock of **** stringing supporters along. Waste of time. I admire what Geoff Bielby is trying to do, but sorry if I was in a meeting with those two, I'd ****ing launch myself over the table at them. Rome wasn't built in a day .... no the club built foundations with Pearson and Taylor and the KC culminating in the recent success we've had. It's taken years to strive and achieve that, and you two despicable twats have dismantled it in the blink of an eye. Much repitition of points ....... what do you expect? Concessions only turnstiles .... very easy and very quick to fix. It won't happen. Club branding. What the **** are we wasting time on that ****e for. You two need to **** off. Leave the club, the supporters, the ground, the badge alone. Just **** OFF. Undersoil heating and integrated irrigation. What the **** is all that about? Load of ****e. What a ****ing shambles. Can't wait till February (2018? 2019?). FFS
If only they had decimated our support. We would only have lost one in ten instead of the one in three we have done.
Undersoil heating and integrated irrigation. What the **** is all that about? Load of ****e. I forgot about that bit, that's running up the SMC debt maintaining and improving the councils stadium. It makes the whole thing less attractive to potential buyers and if and when they walk away the council will owe them money.
Funny thing is Imperial liked my post, so maybe I had a point. I think what has happened has broken the bond for many, or made it less strong for sure.
Possibly because they've been accused of not investing in the club. Under soil heating at the training ground is going to set you back over a million quid
Seeing as the undersoil heating and integrated irrigation is at the training ground it has nothing to do with improving the council's stadium.
Since the Allams declared their desire to sell the Club, significant investment has been made including: renewed lighting at the ground, the purchase as opposed to rental of big screens, a new pitch and at the training ground, 1 of the pitches now has undersoil heating an automated irrigation. I will concede half a point, yes the undersoil heating and irrigation is at the training ground. Is that the one in Cottingham where the porta cabins are or at Bishop Burton? My point remains they are claiming investment in the stadium which is what you have to do to be a football club and one of the reasons why clubs are given money by the FA and or the Premier League.
Thanks for that TOM I have to say I read it part way through and then had to double check the date because I thought it was notes from the first meeting! If they’re still pretending to ask for feedback on their suggestion that they should reintroduce concessions by simply putting the prices up for some fans well I give up. They’ve had the feedback already...it is a cynical scam...end of discussion If they didn’t consider concessionary turnstiles when they were trying to resolve the issue of adults going in on kids tickets in the first place then I’m amazed they manage to decide what to have for breakfast every day. They must have done They’re going to consult fans on the crest...what like they said they would do last time? They’re going to send out ‘summary’ brand guidelines are they? They said they were going to send the full one out before and didn’t. It would be easier to send the full one out than summarise it, but I suspect you’d have found that their claim that no one was told not to use Hull City was actually a lie The only interesting part is them saying they will hand the Club to a firm of accountants...what does that mean exactly? I still think the meetings have served their purpose already in terms of winding down protests / negative media for the time of the Queens visit I still think Geoff should go to the meeting, but I also think protests should be ramped up
So exactly what has been achieved from these two meetings that can be considered truly positive and a move in the right direction, from the fan's perspective that is. **** All. What a waste of time. Attendees please stop allowing yourselves to be used by those two ****s. They are full of **** and have continued to prove that time and time again.
Arnold Lane only mentioned heating and irrigation and I quoted his post, as you now can see I have copied the whole bit about investing in the club which was in the Hull City OSC report.
Why is anybody agreeing to ‘re-review’ the stupid club concessions that literally benefit nobody? Surely feedback could have been giving at meeting 1? ‘It’s a piss take mate, **** off’.
I don’t know if I’m a typical case but I started going in ‘69 and was a season ticket holder for a large proportion of my years following City. However, the odious owners of our club have managed to damage the bond I had with the club to such a degree that I suspect it may well be irreparable. I haven’t been to a single City game in the last two seasons and only went to one game in the season before that. Admittedly, in the meantime, I have moved out of the area and now live 2 hours away but in an area where I could quite easily get to a number of away games but have no real inclination to do so. The fact that I didn’t even consider my support of the club when deciding to move away is testament to the depths that my interest has reached. I do still keep an eye on team news, scores etc. and also have a read on here, although not as much as I used to. Maybe the enthusiasm will return when they’ve gone and I’ll start going to a few more games again but I’m really not sure if It will.
Pretty much in agreement until the last three paragraphs. I see the 3rd party management as a progression of their distain for football business and many who they must deal with. It may offer them another prospective, but... The Queen's visit? Maybe, but a tad over-egged by many... I saw no point in the initial meeting, none in the second and definitely none in another. They should have put something tangible on the table, redress a wrong, before any meeting took place. Agreeing to these meetings give the less well informed the image of owners who work with the support and that is bullshit, wrong and playing right into their hands. Ramp up protests away from the pitch, not on it; I disagree totally with disrupting the match. The problem now is the Allams will condemn the protests because they are actively engaged in dialogue with the supporters (who demanded it).
The paragraph regarding a third party management was a question (not sure why you disagree with a question?) I asked it because I genuinely don’t know what that would be like in practice Has a club been ‘handed over to a firm of accountants’ before without them being administrators?