I was wrong, I thought they'd at least have the sense to make some sort of token gesture, but no, they couldn't even manage that, they're just taking the piss as normal. Time for the pressure to be ramped up.
Ehab's targeting that now, he's got stewards stopping people from walking from one stand to another and checking CCTV for people sat in unsold premium seats.
There must be lot’s of cheating going on, sadly, it comes naturally to many people but the club have made it all too easy for them.
Quite a large number of fans have acknowledged it happened, so no reason to dispute it did happen. In fact we all know it happens, suggesting it's fictional really isn't helpful for anyone. At least they're considering the Trust's proposal for pricing, which is as positive as I can get about last nights meeting. Geoff must have the patience of a saint.
I have this vision of Escab in a corridor rolling around against a wall, laughing one of those I cannot make a sound laughs, but your about to piss yourself at the same time laughs.
We of a certain age(60+) will remember the days at Boothferry park when the kids went through a separate turnstile to the adults, to enter the ground.
I'll repeat my post from 3 weeks ago - we really need to stop ****ing about playing along with these meetings - they're like a cat playing with a mouse - all we're doing is feeding their egos - they think they're being clever by having a dialogue with the fans and ticking a few boxes - it might be small steps but one leg is tied to a stake - we'll be going round in circles for months achieving absolutely nothing - lets not continue to make mistakes dealing with these two - they're just a pair of ****s and need dealing with accordingly - talk talk isn't the way to get them to move - as I said last time, we really shouldn't be fannying about releasing statements about positive dialogue, we should be focussing on their intransigence instead - well done to all those who attended last night, I suspect you feel like you're banging your heads on a brick wall - that's because it needs a sledgehammer, not your nut Some people still don't seem to get it 1 Allam didn't want his big day ****ing up by hooligans 2 he asked for amnesty on pretext of movement in stance 3 they have no intention of changing their stance 4 they buy time by asking supporters to go away and develop proposals 5 supporters return with new proposals that are disected and rejected by Allam as unworkable or unacceptable 6 parties agree meeting has been productive, progress has been made and agree to meet again The Allams are bothered about three things only 1 themselves 2 their reputation 3 money Trust me, they don't give a flying **** about what the fans want - fans are expected to accept whatever **** they come up with - it's their business and no-one tells them how to run their business, they won't allow it, take comfort from their cv Last night's meeting was an exercise for two ****s massaging their egos demonstrating to themselves that they could manipulate a bunch of non entities It was a mistake announcing that progress was being made - the message loud and clear should have been one of intransigence by the Allams - a refusal to call the team Hull City, a refusal to offer concessions and a refusal to offer anything to demonstrate they wanted to improve the relationship with the fans, their irrelevant customers - thats what should have been written all over the press - initiative lost I'm afraid #502 charon-the-ferryman, Nov 23, 2017
It's time to pull the plug on these meetings. The Allams are just taking the piss. In two meetings, the only thing we've established is that they don't like protests. Protest
As OLM said, they've claimed to know that 2,000-3,000 were doing it. Where did that number come from? If it's such a sticking point then it needs to be backed up, not just a case of trusting the liar. How can they possibly know the number but not be able to stop it? Can anyone offer any kind of explanation for where they'd have got the figure from? It just doesn't make any sense and screams 'completely made up'. You started off wrong and descended into complete nonsense. There was absolutely no suggestion that this was happening until the club came up with it. Since then, the only mention of it happening that ever comes up is people just accepting it as having happened but questioning the scale. It's like the name change, everyone focused on what a measly amount he claimed it'd make, but the real point is even that amount was bollocks as it would only ever have cost them money.
No. It was promised to Geoff earlier this week and promised again at the meeting. I think Tom Rowell just keeps forgetting to be honest.
They said it was hundreds, not thousands. Ehab came up with a percentage figure that he claimed were cheating, everyone assumed it was a percentage of the crowd, but it wasn't, it was just a percentage of the junior passes that he claimed were being misused.
I think your wrong on this one, it did and does happen, The point is how do you stop it, like the Allams have or the way all the other football clubs (and every other type of event that has concessions) does it. The sweet spot was when you could get on the bus for kids price and go up town drinking in the pubs.
Ehab claimed it was happening on a significant scale and it's never been challenged nor evidenced. If he really does know how many people are doing it then he has an impressive amount of detailed information at his disposal. With that information he must also be able to identify the culprits. How can you have a total if you don't know which tickets it is? You can obviously never guarantee that a 17-year old won't sneak in as a 16-year old. But if he knows that thousands or even just hundreds were doing it, as claimed, then he needs to use that information. It's far too convenient that he knows it's widespread but doesn't know who's doing it or how to stop it. Yeah right. This is the same bloke who flooded every corner of the ground with stewards to prevent people moving stands after Geoff told him that's what happens. He had no idea until then and is now convinced of it on the back of that one tipoff. The concessions misuse thing will be the the same. He's got the idea from somewhere and became obsessed with it. It's ridiculous to expect us to believe he's so dilligent and aware yet also so ignorant and blind at the same time.
Great post and totally correct. He said in a RH interview nearly 3 years ago that the fans are irrelevant. Why people think that any progress can be made iscquire surprising. They have respect for nobody.
By using CCTV and photos on "membership cards" . If you have to prove your birthday date to get a concession card they know who is entitled and where they are sat. It's not rocket science. Especially with only 11,000 attending!
