Your debates are based on negative wishful thinking, it would help if you researched more and not just Guardian headlines.
Strangely enough I read around, when I have time, quite a lot. I asked you to explain your thinking on two questions, and did you even attempt to give us the benefit of your views? Sorry to see no attempt. People who contribute to this forum will notice that you cannot/will not try to explain how you have come to your opinions, and how the government is taking notice/not taking notice of you and the MPs who you hold in such high regard.
There will be no Brexit at all unless Theresa May is supported, a cabinet minister has warned. Jeremy Hunt
Question. What is the difference between "continued regulatory alignment" and "no regulatory divergence" ? So at the moment it looks that NI will stay in the single market and customs union. Scotland next?
Probably - one way or another. The signs are that there will be another Independence referendum next year - with support for growing and the local Tory/Labour parties shooting themselves in the foot almost daily at both Holyrood and council level.
Now Sadiq Khan has joined Nicola Sturgeon in a call for a 'special deal' for London - on the basis that if it's good enough for NI, it's good enough for others. We now have the strange situation whereby this 'special deal' will be offered to NI, who don't want it - but it won't be offered to either London or Scotland who both do. Well , here's another nice mess you've gotten us into Theresa...
To be honest I thought that May looked ill, and under a huge amount of strain. As was said in the Commons this evening, May is in government, but no longer in power. The DUP are not in government, but are holding power. That came from a pro Brexit MP. A deal had been agreed between the EU and the UK, and it was only after the intervention of the DUP that it was put on hold. There has been a good debate tonight on the relationship between the devolved governments and Westminster. If I lived in Scotland, Wales or Ireland I would be furious at the way that the government was acting as the English government and not one of the UK. There is strong reasoning to suggest that regular meetings take place between the government and the devolved governments, yet months go by without such meetings. The bill as presented is not fit for purpose and many Tories have agreed.
The elected representatives of NI, which is part of the UK, have a duty to represent their constituents. They have legitimate concerns about the possibility of any new trade barriers being erected between NI and the mainland. The idea of one part of the UK having a different deal with the EU is simply not acceptable.
Just maybe the DUP should represent their constituents who voted to remain in the EU. Strangely enough when I asked you about how to get over this problem a couple of weeks ago you were not interested, and said the north could join the south. Now that your party is in danger of losing their help in Westminster, you suddenly find that the DUP should put their own interests above those of the UK. I wonder how much it will cost this time in bribes?
It is perfectly conceivable for NI to have a different deal with the EU. It needs a creative solution, Hong Kong has its own money, passports, immigration channels and legal system whilst remaining a part of China.
If you want to quote me you should get it correct. I have no problem with the north joining the south if the majority in the north vote for it. Any movement towards a united Ireland cannot be made through the back door. The DUP are the elected representatives of NI and as the largest party are entitled to make decisions on behalf of NI. The Republic of Ireland are attempting to use this saga as a stepping stone to unite the island, they are merely playing politics as well as protecting their own trading position.
This is little to do with a united Ireland, but the fact that the EU and the UK had agreed a deal, with the support of the Irish government. Are you saying that a small group of 10 MPs who are supporting the Tories should have the final say on if that agreement should go forward? Do you think that represents democracy?
Why would sensible political representatives in NI, unless they had designs on a united Ireland, agree to put trade barriers between NI and its largest customer, the rest of the UK. It was a daft idea thought up by a meddling RoI. This issues has united Rees Mogg with Soubry, it is naturally unacceptable to most of the Tory party, they do not want to break up the union. I am surprised the Brexit team even thought it was an option, it that indeed was the case.
So the leadership of the party is out of touch. Is that what you are saying? I rather doubt that the civil servants who spent hours drawing up the agreement, and found that it was acceptable to everyone but the DUP and the loony wing of the Tory party, would believe that it was the ROI who designed it. You also seem to overlook that many in NI would welcome such an agreement. The country would still in effect be within the EU as far as regulation went, and that would give them the opportunity to become the gateway to Europe and the largest trading group in the world.
Northern Ireland's largest trading partner is the rest of the UK not the EU. Ni politicians were not elected to financially damage the province. Anna Soubry, the well known anti Brexiteer has tonight said 'many Tories shared DUP concerns about any solution which left NI working to different rules than the mainland" The RoI jumped the gun and deliberately leaked details, which had not been agreed, to add pressure to Mrs May. The EU bully boys are clearly backing anything the RoI want, this will result in the breakdown of talks. This 'option' is never going to work, the other regions have already starting whinging about their separate deals. The referendum covered the whole of the UK, the whole of the UK should leave on the same terms.
It doesn't actually matter what you or I think about the deal, it was agreed by the UK government as a way to move the discussions on. There is little to no doubt that it had been agreed. May was going to the House tomorrow to explain why it was good until she had the phone call with the DUP. When she found out that her chances of remaining in power were reduced, she had to ask for some more time to sort out the 10. Come the end of the week she is going back to Brussels and something the same or very similar will be agreed to. The government knows that they have to obtain a trade deal with the EU and let us not forget it is going to be a bespoke deal.
There was no agreed deal, there were three different options depending on the outcome of the final talks. May had an outline deal with the representatives of NI, the DUP, but the Irish, and some of the EU negotiators were prematurely bragging they had achieved what they wanted. If there is no deal, and commentators are now actually predicting one, the real losers will be the RoI. The Eu will insist on a hard border, not the UK.
Ireland is “surprised and disappointed” that the UK was unable to agree a Brexit deal, Prime Minister Leo Varadkar has said, after an acceptable outcome for the text was agreed earlier with the EU. Mr Varadkar said in Dublin that the Irish Government received confirmation earlier on Monday from both Downing Street and EU officials that a text on the contentious issue of the Irish border had been agreed, and “met the concerns” of the Irish Republic. Now that sounds like there was a deal, and he went on TV this evening to say just that. Just who are these representatives of NI who you speak about?
The DUP As the Irish were promised by the EU they would get exactly what they wanted it would only be natural to express disappointment when reality struck. The Irish or some members of the EU team obviously jumped the gun. To falsely leak a that a deal had been agreed when it had not was either stupid or devious.
I suspect that you don't really wish to read that the deal had been agreed by Downing Street. If you say that it hadn't been then you are accusing the Irish Prime Minister of lying. I doubt that you can prove that.
