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Match Day Thread Sheff Wed v Hull City

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Dec 2, 2017.

  1. The B&S Fanclub

    The B&S Fanclub Well-Known Member

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    Can you get the council to remove the crap. The fifty thousand empty beer cans and the builders rubble...What a toilet.
     
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  2. City1904

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    I don't get this whole shutting up shop thinking and playing for a 1-0.

    We don't have the players or the team to do this, instead of going 1-0 up and playing for that we should carry on attacking. I would of brought Grosicki on for Henrikson, dropped Irvine deeper and bit more central and have Bowen, Grosicki and Campbell using their pace to push Wednesday back and deeper which would of given our midfield far more time on the ball.

    Wednesday weren't getting stretched which didn't give us time to control the ball or play out from the back. We need to attack teams, we can't just sit back and hope for 1-0 as we have seen that doesn't work.

    I wish people would stop suggesting shutting up shop we've tried that for weeks and its failed!
     
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  3. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    Telling graphs them.

    It's where we are the outlier that reveals the real issues. Good attack, crap defence we know about but the proportion of goals we concede relative to attacks we face is the real worry.
     
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  4. Godrevy Buoy

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    For me our priority is to make January with still a chance of surviving this year. At present I don’t see us avoiding the drop if we carry on like this. I like Len but he must go. We need a manager with good coaches to support him. We need to be able to sign at least three players who that manager wants and trusts. All of the bad investment from those two buffoons is starting to bite now. Things must change.
     
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  5. The B&S Fanclub

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    Our only salvation could be like the season when Parkinson came in, proved to be totally useless, then Brown took over, In that season there were three worse teams than us....
     
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  6. Godrevy Buoy

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    If we rely on there been three worse teams than us then I have a feeling we will be disappointed come May.
     
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  7. The B&S Fanclub

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    You could well be right...
    Currently of the bottom 8 from Millwall in 17th to Burton in 24th. I can see both Birmingham (22nd) and Sunderland (23rd) sneaking up the table. That would leave Us, Barnsley and Bolton to join Burton in the bottom 4, though I wouldn't discount QPR (18th) at this stage. Barnsley look as if they are on a downward curve and Bolton are due another collapse. If thats the case we might just, by the sink of our teeth, get out of it bottom 3, though there's still plenty of games to be played so its all guesswork.
     
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  8. Tentotwo

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    If the ability really is there you have to question why it's not beiing exploited over 90mins? Yes,we have ability, but it's limited in certain area's and as we give away lead after lead and conceded goal after goal the confidence and dealing with what's happening kicks in for all to see. In short we have not yet adapted too losing important players and despite the circumstances leading to that fact Slutsky either has to be told we believe in you so your in charge for the Season regardless or..be paid off now and give the job to someone else.
     
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  9. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

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    Worrying thing is the bulk of our points are at home against bottom 6 teams. We only have one HOME game left against these.
    We have only scraped the odd draw against non bottom six.
     
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  10. tigercity

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    Slutsky confounds me.. he says I've learnt that you need a big forward in this league but we don't have one.. then he adds that Hernandez is out.. he isn't a big forward!
     
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  11. Kempton

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    I agree, but feel it's our only hope. The Allams won't be backing us with any meaningful contribution and even if we have a new manager, who is out there that would be able to polish these turds?

    And I mean a manager that would want to come here. Nigel Adkins has had the time to look at us as a club now and if he thinks we are a good opportunity for him...well, he must be mad or desperate.
     
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  12. tigercity

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    Any decent manager who wants to progress will not look at City anymore.

    It will be quite obvious by now if you do a bit of research that you will not be supported by the owners here.

    However I doubt that this has been very clear to some foreign managers, their agents will only be looking at salaries and the size of the club, recent history in the PL etc. The underlying rot must have escaped their notice.

    Silva & Slutsky may well have been blind to the problems and restrictions of working for the Allams before they signed.

    But now there is some precedent it will be increasingly hard for the Allams to hoodwink another good manager into coming.
     
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    The fact you can’t use Grosicki in your favour as a manger says it all really. Ok he has his negatives and he can’t defend etc, but we can’t defend anyway, and he’s blatantly our biggest attacking threat with Bowen. This is how managers like big Sam are in such demand, they keep it tight now how to set a team up and then get the best out of the talented players no one wants. Slutsky is not up to this job and the more Ehab ponders about the bigger chance we have of going down.

    Another thing I know how we bang on about Henriksen but what does he actually give us? I can’t speak for yesterday as I wasn’t there, but Toral has just started playing well against Birmingham then he got dropped, then got injured. Henriksen doesn’t have the skill, work rate, intelligence or general ability to be our number 10.
     
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  14. Tentotwo

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    All true but my main concern is the way Slutsky gets apparently quoted in interviews suggesting he is a defeated unhappy man and cannot cope with the pressure one week but then he feels ok again. Stuff like that gets picked up far to easily and makes him look weak with no inner self belief.
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Do you think Alex Neil would have come here over preston? I do. Far better players here. Plenty of other managers would choose us over what they have. Look back to the job warnock did at Rotherham. They were dead and buried.
    Look at what we have. How many internationals? How many do millwall have or Bristol etc etc
     
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    Slutsky needs to take up a position in the stands and let his No.2 do the touchline stuff it would stop the ****er from pacing up and down looking at his ****ing feet all game. I don't even know the blokes name ffs, that's how much interest I currently have.

    The man projects no confidence or tactical knowledge whatsoever and is beginning to really grate on me. All this "he's a nice bloke" will take us down. That combined with the way these two evil ****s are running our club will have us in L1 come May.

    I just wish that they would all **** off and let us get back to being the club we were before all this **** started.

    I'm pissed off.
     
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  17. Godrevy Buoy

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    Chaz is right. There is a core of good players here but we are not getting the best from them. That must be down to coaching or management. I think managers would come here but they will want some assurances about coaching staff they trust, the addition of players in January and letting them get on with the job without bollocks about Club philosophy etc., etc. However we have little quality in the full backs and another experienced head in the back line would bring real improvements. We can’t fanny about now, things are critical and I just hope the owners can see that, personally and this is the real problem, they just don’t seem to care about it anymore.
     
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  18. City1904

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    Can people stop comparing us to other clubs such as Bristol City, Sheffield Utd etc....

    We have a group of random players who have been put together with no thought whatsoever. Those teams have built squads around a system that they have played for a couple of years, with managers who have philosophies.

    I doubt Slutsky even knew who Dicko and Irvine where before we brought them in. We don't have a squad so stop making comparisons to sides who have built one up. Preston have changed managers yet still play a near identical system as they have a squad suited to it.
     
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  19. Mark de Klein

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    No need to ask Syd here Just off for an Interstellar Overdrive......
     
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  20. AlRawdah

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    I’m getting back on my hobby horse. Anyone that wanted Henriksen subbed off yesterday was either not there, or is unable to go back on previous proclamations, or a twat. He was at heart of our attacks and kept playing wel even after a series of nasty kicks as Wednesday tried to hoof him off the park. They obviously saw him (and Campbell) as our primary threat.

    Bowen was **** today. He didn’t look fit and if anyone should have been hooked at half time he was the prime candidate. His muscle pull case from a block - a classic injury for a semi fit player.

    This stuff about sacking Slutsky for his second half ineptitude is all very well, and has some grounding in recent evidence, but it’s weird to lose your **** in that way this weekend given his late sub led to a rescued point.

    All the time Slutsky is our manager I’ll support him during the 90 minutes. Some arseholes seem to think it’s ok to call for the sacking of your own manager during the match. Shameful.
     
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