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Match Day Thread Hull City v Bristol City

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Nov 24, 2017.

  1. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    So just about every post on here saying we gave in when t.he first went in, is that body language? Is that what we felt what we saw? A slumping of shoulders? A lack of desire to go for the ball to be available for,a pass? To hide?
    All body language.
    Believe me Meyler and Clark weren't celebrating, at all.
     
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  2. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

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    Body language of how somebody is playing is a lot different to knowing what somebody is saying sorry whispering as you put it.

    Plenty of times I've seen players of different teams warming up not celebrate when their team mates have scored.

    Maybe they were saying at least they'd get on now or the opposite
     
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  3. Kempton

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    I haven't read the whole of this, but I did say somewhere on this thread that no one can accuse any player for not trying

    I'm not sure how relevant that is, except to say Slutski just doesn't have the players he'd like at his disposal.
     
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  4. Edelman

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    I don't go at the minute so what is the general feeling at the game.
    I find it hard to believe that the Apathy that prevails at the Top isn' running completely through every single player and club employee
     
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    I haven't been for three seasons Jules. I watched the stream.
     
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  8. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

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    You would hope that if Slutz is still here in January that he would be able to bring more (or more importantly, better / the right) players in. After all, in recent months there's been appointments for 'head of recruitment' and 'head of strategy' (or something similar). if there weren't to be signings, then what would be the point of those recruitments? A disturbing thing for me was hearing Slutz say, a month or so ago that he didn't want signings, other than to replace key players that either left in January or became injured. Having said that, it seems he now realises he needs better players (having very recently said "I've underestimated ....").
     
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  9. Godrevy Buoy

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    I remember when Silva came he brought a full coaching team. The players were impressed by his attention to detail. They were all given specific things they HAD to do. This type of detailed coaching is especially important at set pieces. City at the moment are unable to defend a set piece and quite honestly the defending at times looks like it has no discipline to it at all. Len has not brought in any of his coaching team apart from this new lad who sits in the stands. I like Len but I honestly believe that he does not have a proper coaching set up in place. Some of the defending especially in the later stages is Sunday league standard.
     
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  10. Godrevy Buoy

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    Driff. I believe he now knows what he has bought into. He needs five players in January. A new centre half. A midfielder with leadership ability. A new big centre forward (how often do we see one come on and make a huge difference) and at least one fullback( I would prefer two ) The balance of the team must be restored. It’s all very well being a ‘well run club’ as Ehab likes to spout but it will be a well run League One club if there is no investment in January.
     
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  11. armchairfan

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    Of course we all hope that. But that remark of his about not needing signings also struck me. It seems like he took over understanding he'd just have loans and a few younger players to sign. There's a reason we've struggled to get managers here the last couple of seasons. The only chance of us spending much is if we ship some out I think.
     
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  12. lewisc29

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    To be fair, we were awful at defending set pieces last year.
     
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  13. Edelman

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    Do they run their business with agency staff.??
     
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  14. Rock'n'Roll

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    Sorry, but i must tell something about such theories about not needing players.
    He explained once how he choose what to talk about and what a big difference between Russian and English press. Every his words are mostly for current players, example: when summer transfer window was open he tried to motivate and make them to stay by telling about proving it was not right thing for their reputation to relegate from EPL and they are skillful enough to get promotion and return back in Hull City team without moving to more successful teams. So he was forced to talk about good quality to fight back. And so on.
    Every coach always dreams about transfers and new players, but needs to be real and understand financial situation of his club. That's his words too. I'm not trying to defend and something else, but it's too serious to make statements about not happened transfers or bad loans/transfers basing upon some usual motivating words about how good his current team is. I don't think that Messi and CR7 were dreaming to join Hull City, honestly :)
    Sorry for my English! Cheers!
     
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  15. armchairfan

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    I don't think people are expecting big superstars here, but this club has had a very thin squad the last two years. The result of that is inexperienced players in key positions. The problem with motivating hype is that it can sound very hollow if not backed up by performance, I think people appreciate some honesty.
     
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    I think there is some truth and sense in your opinion of Slutz's comments.
    However, it was strange for him to say, only a few weeks ago, that he didn't want (need) signings in January. If he was concerned about how it might affect current players if he said he wants (needs) new players in January, then maybe he would have been better to simply not say anything at all? Or maybe he should be telling the players exactly / honestly what the situation is, and they either respond or **** off?
    Irrespective, it really does seem that it's only in these past couple of weeks that the pennies have finally dropped for him, meaning that he only now realises what a car crash he's walked into (both on and off the field).
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    I don't think he meant what people think he meant, he quite obviously needs players, he's even suggested recently that the ones we've got weren't his choices.
     
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    Okay, so we aren't in a great place, but we certainly aren't a car crash.

    Now we've got Slutsky in, it really shows how good a job Bruce did by getting us back up at the first attempt.

    For the first time in ages though we can actually score goals, all we need is a defensive gaffer to come in, and we'd be pushing the top 6.

    I certainly think that had Bruce been in charge we'd have been comfortably top half, if not in the playoffs and that's with the squad we have now.
     
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  19. Gone For A Walk

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    I think Stuart Green nailed it last night on Sportstalk. We simply don't have the strong leaders and fighters within the starting eleven and the squad that are needed in order to be successful.
    And it goes further than just missing an Ashbee / Brabin type; meaning we are absolutely missing that sort of player & character on the field and in the dressing room, but it needs a few of a certain type that we simply don't have. The balance in the squad is all wrong, not just position wise but also in terms of character, age, experience.
    And he went further to recognise that the above is then compounded by having Slutz as a new to English football nice guy with next to no support in terms of the right backroom staff. With a different make up of the squad, he might have got away with his lack of experience and support, but the squad was dismantled then (partially) rebuilt without the necessary balance, being done mainly with youth and loans and at least a couple who don't really want to be here.
    It's a mess.
    (sorry, I know, stating the obvious for some. Just refreshing to hear Stuart Green spelling out the simplicity of it).
     
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  20. Rock'n'Roll

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    it's not my opinion TBH, he told exactly that it's very difficult to answer some questions and above all he thinks how to answer for the good of his current players to keep them motivated, he simply can't answer that he dreams to sell all bad players and buy good ones, it would be wrong step in his philosophy. Such things also happened during his CSKA times, he was not critizing some players in public, it's bad for business and harder to sell them after open critics, so he told good positive stuff, but suddenly they stopped to play and were sold out (or loaned out) quickly at first opportunity. His decisions were very harsh sometimes, but they were backed by the board. I don't understand how good is his communication with Hull City board, are they supporting more transformation or not anymore, are they allowing to develop plans? I don't get it now, seems like i'm not alone :)
     
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