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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. lifecheshirewhite

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    What's with the triple A,my posts that good ay <ok> sorry but yours would be in the junk group.<whistle>
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    It was me exclaiming my disappointment at your continued stupidity.

    Before you ****s got started we as a country had an AAA credit rating.
    We won’t ever get that back if we don’t stop you.
     
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  3. lifecheshirewhite

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    Didn't do a very good job did you,but I'm not surprised.
     
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  4. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    I remember this, it comes from a credible source. However, you can take a credible source, misinterpret it and misrepresent it, then rely on morons to tell everyone it supports their case when it doesn’t. You can see the LSE link below, but it is not saying 70% now support Brexit, it is saying when you ask people (both remain and leave supporters) about the form of Brexit they would prefer quite a number of the answers fit more with hard Brexit than soft. That does not mean that the people questioned even support Brexit, the fact that Brexit is happening was taken as a given, they were just asked for attitudes towards various issues surrounding Brexit

    But the reality is people did not say they supported hard Brexit. It was not even a poll.

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/...ain-voters-are-divided-on-several-key-issues/
    And
    http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top...oiced-their-support-for-hard-brexit-1-5153096
     
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  5. lifecheshirewhite

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    Shouldn't have any credit rating,do you know how much debt the EU has got us into.
     
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  6. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Just to add: I am 100% anti Brexit but I would probably have voted for some aspects of hard Brexit in that LSE poll. Quite simply if you are doing Brexit some of the stuff they call soft Brexit makes no sense, so you may as well go hard. But that’s why I think leaving at all is a dumb idea.

    (And note I said some not all, a lot of hard Brexit is total bollox).
     
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  7. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    very little?
     
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  8. lifecheshirewhite

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    <doh><doh><doh><doh><doh><doh><doh>
     
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    Screw you and your link to the original authors talking about 'Conjoint experiments differ considerably from traditional public opinion surveys in a number of ways that make powerful tools for understanding preferences'.

    I saw a video on youtube where a digitised voice told me that 7 out of 10 voters now support a hard Brexit whilst slowly zooming in on an image of Theresa May smiling in front of an Union Jack.

    I think I know which source I trust.
     
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  10. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Sorry

    I stand corrected

    And I apologise for any suggestion on my part that we had a need for experts in any part of this discussion

    It’s magical thinking for me from now on
     
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    Though incidentally the latest whateveryouwantGov polls suggest a switch from the start of the year with 'The average of YouGov’s five most recent polls shows 43% saying we were right to vote to leave and 45% saying we were wrong. By contrast, on average the first five polls of this year saw 46% saying we were right to leave and 42% wrong.'

    https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/10/27/there-has-been-shift-against-brexit-public-still-t/

    And unlike most Brexiteers here a recent poll by Lord Ashcroft suggest that more Brexiteers think the EU has the upper hand in negotiations than the UK

    https://www.conservativehome.com/pl...-brexit-deal-will-be-secured-for-britain.html
     
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  12. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    And hence the shrill attacks by the Brexit media and oddball right wing lunatic politicians on anyone even remotely resisting ...... they know perfectly well they won the vote by a sliver due to a perfect storm of circumstances and would be highly unlikely to win a rerun whenever / however it took place
     
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  13. Chippy / Glory

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    You seem to know.
    You tell me how much debt the EU has got us into. Better still provide an independent source and I will read it myself.
     
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  14. Chippy / Glory

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    These mad cnuts have divided the country and are presiding over a catastrophe.
    It's almost worth sitting back and watching because there is trouble coming the like of which this country has never seen.
    Civil unrest on a scale that will blow the roof off.
     
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  15. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Unfortunately it’s not quite the same as shooting cats in the garden

    I don’t fancy where this is leading for the person I hold most dear in this world (me)
     
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    There is always civil unrest when the loony left loose a vote. They have never understood democracy.
     
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  17. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Nice try
     
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    xbpod Well-Known Member

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    Everyone else talking b******s on here today so thought I would join in. <cheers>
     
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  19. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    That’s s very cynical attitude if I may say so

    Well done <ok>
     
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  20. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    We didn’t lose the vote, we were robbed by purveyors of fake news who conned the gullible and stupid (take a bow, Chesh) into voting against their own interests
     
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