Agree on the keepers. Disagree on Bartley, signed a new deal as soon as he got back to Swansea and Paul Clement decided he wanted him (why wouldn't he on prem wages, not blaming him for that). Boro failure Orta? Are you basing the failure the fact that his signings didn't keep them in the premiership or (the failure) bought the players that got them promoted from the championship (can't have it both ways). Not all signings can work (as previously pointed on other threads) and we've had some real donkeys signed by proper 'managers' that 'know this division'. Lasogga was highly rated at one time in Germany so a few were interested, probably not suited to English football but has a few goals (Wood was **** remember). No one was whinging (chippy excepted) when we went unbeaten. I'm unconvinced by TC but better managers have also failed. Whatever anyone says, we couldn't keep Taylor or Bartley or Wood so that is a pointless argument.
You’re right we couldn’t have kept them but their replacements have not been what could be termed as world beaters
Agree, but again, we are a championship club so who could we replace them with, bearing in mind that with the exception of Taylor, an academy product, the other two were at the time premiership team cast-offs?
But surely that’s what Orta is presumably well paid for. To source quality replacements. If all he can find are average or worse then anyone can do that job. I wanted to feel inspired by the signings but am really struggling with them. Maybe Sunday could be the start of something but we seem to be saying that with every passing game
Again not disagreeing but we have been out of the top division for countless years with signing from 'managers'. It is just the thought that all we need is a manager that will cure everything I disagree with as the passing of years has proved. I'm not saying one approach is better than the other. Why didn't Moancock succeed here??
The biggest problem was caused by Wood leaving at the 11th hour. This threw a spanner in, with little time to do much about it
I wonder instead of signing 15 players in the summer, had we used the same budget for seven or eight would we have gotten better quality and maybe a bit more stability.
There was always at least a 50/50 chance he’d leave. We courted Lasogga for a month before Wood went. It was like he was only replacement available. The fact we were only willing to pay 10k a week wages (our portion of the Germans wage) limited our choices
Can all you Jonny come lately grumpy twats (ex happy crappies) **** off. I am going to need some new material if you keep going.
You may well be right and probably are but from all our managers over the years we've been in the 2nd division (lets not dress it up) what are our quality signings
Correct. Loads of new material as we win the group. Win in the round of 16,8, the semi and beat Germany in the final. It’s coming home...
Is that the same year that the mighty whites turn their form around against Boro, win 14 in a row, go unbeaten for the rest of the season and get promoted as champions?
We need to pay siimilan to whatever wolves Cardiff and the non parachute receiving clubs. I suspect we’re not and may be main reason why we don’t sign players with championship experience. A quality striker will cost 20 or 25k a week minimum
Maybe if we were paying fewer players who will never make it in the first team though, we could. How many on say 5k a week never play
