Off Topic OLOF's political thread

Except for a couple of things - firstly that was from 2008 and there has been work to reduce food waste so we now throw away 7.3m tonnes not 20 million tonnes.

Secondly 48% of the food we need is currently imported - so if we reduce the variety of foods we eat and no longer import food and then stop throwing away food we would still be short of the amount we need.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ay-13bn-of-food-each-year-latest-figures-show

 

That's just household waste - your figure doesn't include manufacturing, retail, hospitality or wholesale - a bit like your £13bn EU membership fee, you have missed most of it off!!

 

Why would we reduce the variety of foods we eat and why would we no longer import food? You are making no sense!!

 

I was talking to a vegetable not about them.

 

Wait until you see how much maybot negotiates for access after brexit

 

And how Ireland becomes a gateway for illegals on a scale unseen before.

 

Excellent - they can work for the farmers!

 

However, he has also added £12billion a year lost to the Exchequer through legal tax avoidance schemes which result from Britain being a member of the EU.

Right......

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...anti-tax-avoidance-schemes-for-multinationals

And in the Express the same Express forced to apologise by IPSO for it's previous European coverage http://www.express.co.uk/news/clarifications-corrections/763692/IPSO-rules-against-Express-EU-Poll

 

"Inquiry to centre on George Osborne’s 2013 rule change that allows resident multinationals to shift income offshore."

See - you just cannot trust these Remain monkeys - thanks for that confirmation!!

 

If we do a no-deal exit then what we can import will be massively reduced

 

Says who?
Do you think all of these company's will stop exporting stuff to us?
Note - Over 6 million people in the EU have jobs that are dependent on exporting goods to the UK,
Please think about it logically or Have you borrowed Glory's "How to lie" book?

 

No but to the average consumer adding an average of 20% to the costs of food in some case as much as 40% would restrict the variety of food that was affordable, before even getting into the logistical nightmare of customs dealing with the delays for imports/exports.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-b...rts-if-no-brexit-deal-retailers-idUKKBN17M1LM

 

"British shoppers could face"

So that's a worst case scenario of a worst case scenario - we both know that it if total bullsheet (British or EU beef take your pick)

So far, you have pointed out that
Crops could go rotten
We might not get exports
We might pay higher prices
12% of crops have dratically changed since 1960

And its all down to Brexit

 

Nope so far I have pointed out that

Crops have been left to rot due to a lack of workers.
(and we already are paying higher food prices).

Due to Brexit.

With a no deal we will definitely reduce what we import.
We definitely would pay higher prices.

Due to Brexit.

12% of crops have changed dramatically since the 60's rather than dratically.

This has nothing to do with Brexit.

 

What you are really saying is

After Brexit average Joe and his family will be walking around the Supermarket and come to the cheese section.
A lb of Mazzarella has shot up 40% since Brexit and the shelves are stacked with it as no-one is buying it.
The British Cheddar on the other hand, has all but sold out as its much cheaper and tastes much better.
Mick the Cornish dairy farmer has had to double the amount of cows he has due to this new demand, and luckily for him, he is feeding them cheaper than ever in the fields that Cornish Dave was unable to harvest because his cheap illegal labour has gone. The food waste mountain has shrunk as a consequence, all good so far.

The air is much fresher as no European freight lorries are clogging up the motorway, and the Calais illegals have disappeared as there are no lorries to jump on.

Bring it on!!

 

It's a nice fantasy but one that ignores the fact that the EU member Ireland currently supplies a third of all our Cheddar supplies. They provide 78,000 tonnes and we currently export 45,000 tonnes = another shortfall.

And guess what Irish cheese makers are already contemplating switching to instead of cheddar? Producing Mozarella as they fear the cost of tariffs for cheddar for a hard brexit. https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-exposes-threat-to-uk-cheddar-supply/

Because that cheddar that average Joe is buying in the cheese aisle isn't normally on the pizza that he buys in the next aisle, and the amount of Pizza bought in the average household in the UK has shot up from 2g per week to 53g per week since 1975.

I'm not sure why Mick the dairy farmer finds it easier to attract workers than Dave?

And as for that clear air lets see what people who work in Dover and deal with this have to say *warning* may contain more pesky expert opinions https://www.ft.com/content/7ff7c97c-b33c-11e7-a398-73d59db9e399

 

And as for bringing it on - I think when the 400 amendments to the Repeal Bill go to committee next week we'll begin to get some idea of whether there's any chance of no deal getting through (I suspect they won't have the numbers to pass it). If they don't have the numbers to get away with a no deal then the only thing that will be brought on is a transitional deal and pretty quickly.

 

Simple - Mick voted leave and doesn't need to lie like Remoany Dave!!

 

NB - You were right about EU member Ireland currently supplying a third of all our Cheddar supplies.
What you forgot to add was that they make it from the milk we export to them.
Simple solution will be to move the processing plants from Eire to Northern Ireland and no tariffs to pay, and more jobs coming to the UK.


Brexit gets better with every post you make

 

Don't forget not worth worrying about as we will all be dead in WW3.Cameron said so or was it could be dead.