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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    Well as immigrants who have arrived since 2000 are 43% less likely to receive state benefits and tax credits than natives and 7% less likely to live in social housing maybe we should be encouraging more emigration to fund the NHS
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    And to work in it.
     
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    Depends who says so,show the link,most things can be manipulated to show what the payee wants it to say.<whistle> for example tell me the percentage of Brits claiming benefits for families living abroad compaired to EU born citizens.Think it would be catastropic to your argument <whistle>
     
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    Maybe if it wasn't for the millions of EU immigrants we wouldn't need lots of extra NHS workers :bandit: just saying.
     
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  5. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    It's more to do with an ageing population than an immigrant population.
     
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    xbpod Well-Known Member

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    dbc, is that article by the same guy who said migration from eastern Europe would be 5000 - 13000 a year when it was actually 200000 a year between 2004 and 2009
     
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  8. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    God you’re thick Chesh
    <laugh>

    It’s people like me who are swamping the nhs with our old git illnesses. Young immigrants pay tax, pay national insurance (unlike me), do jobs that no Brits want to (unemployment rates are lowest since forever), and apart from maternity’s make little claim on the nhs

    If you want to cut nhs costs, I recommend compulsory euthanasia for the over 70’s (but FFS don’t tell your mate Jeremy CHunt as he’d probably do it)
     
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    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    No

    Next question
     
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    Well hurry up and stop burdening us young uns <grr>
     
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    xbpod Well-Known Member

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    Did I miss spell dbc as twat?
     
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    Not family benefits but for JSA seems to be roughly the same 2.2% for EU citizens in the UK and 2.5% for UK Citizens in Europe - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/-sp-thousands-britons-claim-benefits-eu

    And as pointed out we tend to import younger healthier working migrants who are less pressure on our NHS than what we export to say Spain https://www.economist.com/news/brit...-and-exports-creaky-old-ones-balance-ailments
     
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    What do the many thousands in the Jungle camp know that you don't <whistle>

    And what we export to Spain tend to be wealthy retired people.
     
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    dbc Well-Known Member

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    yes the same one

    Prof Christian Dustmann believes none can have read his 2003 report.

    He said it made clear immigration would be much higher if, as happened, Germany and other countries decided to curb access to their labour markets.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21682810
     
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    Not the first time his reports have been a waste of paper then as I suspected.
     
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    But the 13000 figure was still the one labour used to show the number of immigrants coming the UK for work would be low.
     
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    And this explains what happened *spoiler alert* Blunkett at fault rather than academic
     
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    Yes my lads the same,and Glory,always someone else's fault.
     
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    Typical "academic", say something is going to happen, but cover himself with different scenarios just in case he gets it wrong, then blame someone else.
     
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