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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. paultheplug

    paultheplug Well-Known Member

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    How stupid is Johnson. If May had a backbone she would sack him, endangering someone he supposed to protect.
     
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  2. And of course, the BBC is putting its own scheduling ahead of a real political story - running the Paradise Papers report as it features on Panorama!! :headbang:
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    I honestly can't remember the last time the BBC News didn't feature either a plug for an upcoming Panorama, or a shoehorned-in mention for Victoria Derbyshire's show.

    I once tried to make a drinking game out of it, but it ended something like this...

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  4. What a surprise - Johnson opens his mouth before thinking and manages to put both feet in - and endanger the life of someone he should be seeking to protect.

    This current bunch of imbeciles on both sides of the Atlantic are beyond the pale! :emoticon-0121-angry
     
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  5. The RDBD

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    I am more stunned by the fact there was a 60 min
    edition of Panorama on any topic on a weekday
    evening slot.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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  7. The RDBD

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    Making the same mistake that the "Leave"
    propaganda bus did in 2016.

    < Oh dear, Jeremy Corbyn !!! >
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    The pic's from the JeremyCorbyn4PM Twitter page, not Corbyn or Labour.

    Meanwhile, The Dire Leader had to cancel this morning's planned cabinet meeting, although I can't think why...

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  9. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    1. The claims are incorrect.

    2. Feel free to edit any "Corbyn" labels etc from any
    future such pictures (to avoid mis-association) .
     
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  10. PleaseNotPoll

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    I don't like Corbyn, but what's wrong about the claims?
    It doesn't seem to be saying that's what should actually happen, which the original bus suggested.
     
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  11. The RDBD

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    In order to get said money for anything, the
    tax rate by definition would have to be ... 100% .
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    It doesn't say anything about getting it though, just that it would be enough to give the NHS £350m a week for 16 years.
    The other bus basically said, "We use this money for this. Let's use it for that".
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    The Corbyn-Twitter one just says that amount would equal 16 years of spending at £350m a week.
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    1.) The claims aren't incorrect, as that's the ballpark figure that has been widely reported since the story broke
    1a.) The picture is not saying the money would all be spent on the NHS, unlike the slogan on the side of Boris' campaign bus
    1b.) Given the Tories keep trying to deny Boris' "£350m a week to the NHS" claims, it's always worth reminding people
    2.) There's no such thing as a "Corbyn label" as his social media posts either have no logo on them, or if they do it's the Labour logo
     
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  14. The RDBD

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    Oh, the attempted implication is clear.

    Saying that AT BEST the tax collectible on that money would
    increase the annual NHS budget for an extra 3 weeks for 16 years
    (which is fact) , doesn't quite have the same ring does it.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    Pretty much...

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  16. vimhawk

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    There is an angle here that would condemn the BBC for ignoring the wider implications of the Paradise Papers and focusing on transgressing celebrities instead - you could argue this is dumbing down at best, at political interference at worst. On the other hand it's probably a feature of the modern world - something like let's ignore the big picture here about how the modern world is arranged for the benefit of the few, and just keep it simple for the simple people to understand (who aren't going to get any cleverer if they hear nothing but the simple version).

    Edit: I was just listening to a Radio 4 programme called "Britain in a Box", a series on the making of various TV programmes. One of them was on "Word in Action" which in part dealt with the fact that current affairs programmes used to be really big on TV. Now you get a couple of programmes on Sunday morning and Panorama, but there really isn't that mainstream investment in it. I think this is to the detriment of society as a whole and can only lead to disaster come election / referendum time.
     
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  17. audrey.s.thackeray

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    I think it's just trying to point out the scale of the offshore funds, and using the Brexit bus stuff
    as an ironically convenient parallel...... for the amount involved. I think the wording is vital. And careful.
    It does not at any point suggest that the tax on the offshore funds would fund the NHS to that extent.
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    MODERN world !!?? :) This has been going on for centuries.
    Institutional, and was built on the now dead myth
    of the intellectual superiority of the financial and legal sectors.


    "Edit: I was just listening to a Radio 4 programme called "Britain in a Box", a series on the making of various TV programmes. One of them was on "Word in Action" which in part dealt with the fact that current affairs programmes used to be really big on TV. Now you get a couple of programmes on Sunday morning and Panorama, but there really isn't that mainstream investment in it. I think this is to the detriment of society as a whole and can only lead to disaster come election / referendum time."

    As I said sarcastically yesterday about Panorama.

    Is it too much to ask all the channels to sacrifice a few
    how big is your strictly dancing factor bake-off, so that
    the world can have regular 60 min doses of proper
    current affairs programmes ??
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

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    Carl Sargeant, Labour MP who was accused of improper personal behaviour, has killed himself:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161
    It doesn't appear that he even knew what he was being accused of, which is a bit odd.
    I can't find anything that details the accusations at all.

    People will look at this in a couple of different ways.
    Either he couldn't take the pressure that this sort of thing puts on someone or he was guilty and scared of the repercussions of his actions.
    Could just be the final straw that pushed him over the edge, as we don't know anything about him, really.
     
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  20. The RDBD

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    The "Brexit bus" + numbers should now be a byword
    for utter b*ll*cks. Anyone who so attempts to present
    any numerical data is fair game for immediate demolition.
     
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