you are definately reaching now. maybe they didnt have the equipment to dive to those levels? could you point me to the 'extract of clay' bit, yes 3 veils of darkness, see above we are not talking about a chick embryo's but human production which only found out the 'truth' in the 1900's as for arsitotle his 'theories' on the matter were blown away in the 16th/17th century by the likes of William Harvey talking about reproductive fluids is easy enough, aristotle did study these. But he also said that the union was of sperm and menstrual blood, and he also said the embryo formed in the uterus, which again was proven wrong Science today accepts and follows the quranic model
It was. admittedly some people did play around with the words and try and make them 'fit' However the 'accepted' scholars never did Therein does lie the issue though, certain people (eg MCB) are seen as the authority on religion. when in fact all they do is toe the line
The conditions don't have to be perfect. Even on our planet there are various lifeforms that can survive in extremely harsh conditions. An extraterrestial species does not necessarily have to be a humanoid that breathes oxygen. Given the infinite number of planets I'd say it's very much possible that there's another planet somewhere with conditions where life in some form can exist. Unlikely it might be but scientifically it is a possibility. And I wasn't referring to you with the shoving beliefs down people's throats part.
True. It seems unlikely that the conditions exsist out there for life as complex as ours though, more likely there is life on a microbial scale out there.
of course, how much time have you got and what would you like as the point of reference? for example it is clear from the bible that jesus did not die on the cross Its also clear that the concept of original sin is incorrect of course these are the only issues that i was initially replying to when i made the comment that you have responded to
I'm reaching? We created man from an extract of clay. (Qur'an, 23:12) 3 veils of darkness is exceptionally vague. You think that Aristotle's theories were blown away and yet you see 3 veils of darkness as divine insight?! He advanced science and then 1,000 years later the Quran proposed some similar theories, while obscuring them behind mysticism. Science follows the Quranic model? Proof, please.
The bible says that Jesus didn't die on the cross?! Really? I don't think that it does. Whilst I'd agree that the concept of original sin is wrong, I'm not sure why you believe it is. Explain.
and i think you have hit the nail on the head The problem with these debates/discussions is peoples starting point when we talk about 'lifeforms' people think us or ET plants are a life form that breathe in CD and breathe out oxygen, we are the reverse. other lifeforms etc could breathe in molten lava and shoite flowers yes its an exaggeration, but it probably makes more sense than little green men same with religion and models of god. we always seem to revert back to what is in essence the christian (catholic) god
the difference being that aristotle was 'proved' wrong. His theories did not satnd the test of time The qurans explanation of embryology is true today I think th eproblem here is the websites you are getting the info of. you see the way to read the quran and understand the quran is also IN the quran. you are obviously taking an english translation that fits your argument, which tbf is the common problem. The way to look at it is this, the quran is in parts specific answers to specific issues/questions. It never sought to be the 'first' it sought to correct. Obviously not being a muslim a person will dispute this. However you have kind of proven it aristotle may have had a theory on how life in the womb began, it was wrong, the qurans is currently the correct one The interpretation of the verses in the Qur’an referring to human development would not have been possible in the 7th century A.D., or even a hundred years ago. We can interpret them now because the science of modern Embryology affords us new understanding. Undoubtedly there are other verses in the Qur’an related to human development that will be understood in the future as our knowledge increases.
In 1916, Albert Einstein formulated his General Theory of Relativity that indicated that the universe must be either expanding or contracting. Confirmation of the expanding-universe theory finally came in 1929 in the hands of the well known American astronomer Edwin Hubble. Yet, astonishingly well before telescopes were even invented and well before Hubble published his Law, Prophet Muhammad used to recite a verse of the Quran to his companions that ultimately stated that the universe is expanding.
I think its kind of Ironic that you keep posting studies by aristotle he invented one of the major arguments (or "proofs") of God's existence: the first cause argument. It says that everything that we see has a cause, so there must be an unseen uncaused cause since it makes no sense to say that a chain of causes could go back to infinity. Aristotle even said: " Yet there is God, though not perhaps the simple and human god conceived by the forgivable anthropomorphism of the adolescent mind." which is kind of what i was saying
