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Match Day Thread 2017/18 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by RogerisontheHunt, Jul 18, 2017.

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  1. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    Or maybe the league he is in now will suss him <ok>
    I have seen many, many players have a great first season :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  2. Zanjinho

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    There isn't much to suss, he's not exactly the most complicated of players!

    Bit like Owen; pace and finishing was his entire skill set but no one managed to figure out how stop him bar the physio!
     
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  3. BobbyD

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    Nah that pen was soft as ****. Monreal just muscled him off the ball. You see that all the time.

    Arsenal defence was a disgrace though on the 3rd goal just standing there.

    New rules. If he took him out deliberately its a red. Because (not seen it) he was taken out in a genuine attempt/accident then a pen is punishment enough
     
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    Not aware of the rules change, cheers :)
    Not sure it falls under that, have a look and see what you think, If i had been a toffee fan and niasse is injured in that challenge - i would be mad as hell.
    Defender had zero chance of getting ball, so he just went through the back of niasse - pen not awarded as ball trundled into the net. As a new rule they should be looking at that and maybe tweaking it imho. Personally i thought it was a straight red, at the very least a yellow.
    Had the defender cleared it, would it have been a pen and no card under the new rule then ?
     
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  5. BobbyD

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    oh i sort of read about that. I thought you were talking about the holebas challenge on lennon.

    Not sure what the rule is when its a dangerous challenge but you don't want the penalty and the goal. I have a feeling by letter of the law the player is not penalised (think i've seen something similar where someone makes a red card challenge but the foul had already been given so it didn't count). I suspect something may play with the referees mind if a player was seriously injured from a dangerous challenge but if everyone is fine they'll follow the letter of the law
     
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    Dodgy dealings to buy Everton?
     
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  7. Bumps

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    It defo not pen and goal, I just thought the ref had bottled it <laugh>think he had figured, well its gone in so I will just give the goal <laugh>, no one except that pedantic cock womble on that forum will be arsed, it’s a great game why rock the boat <laugh>
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    the question that comes to mind is how did the fa approve the buy out without understand where cash comes from
     
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  9. Tobes

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    It's a complete non story.

    Even if Usmanov did gift the cash to Moshiri that enabled him to buy his stake in Arsenal (which is being completely denied)

    Once gifted, that cash is his. He bought his stake in Arsenal with it, and then a decade later sold it and moved on.

    And what?

    There's been suggestion and innuendo about the long term intentions of Usmanov since the day Moshiri bought his stake in EFC. But at the minute Moshiri is the only one involved in the club, and proving otherwise is completely impossible.
     
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  10. Tobes

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    The cash ultimately came from Usmanov as he bought Moshiri's stake in Arsenal, that is not even a matter of debate. However, Moshiri then invested it in Everton, not Usmanov. Neither man has a finger in both pies from a legal perspective.

    Funny how this is being spun as an issue for Everton and not Arsenal btw?
     
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  11. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    A shame but it's probably for the best. I think the players need a kick up the bum and a fresh face to guide them. Dunno if moyes is the right guy though....
     
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    LFC gettin managers sacked all day bruh
     
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  14. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Is David Moyes the one to relegate West Ham making two in a row?.
     
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  15. johnsonsbaby

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    It's the FA remember, when does anything they do make sense? And not even sure it has anything to do with the FA it's the PL, separate bodies.

    Would the PL have had any reason or requirement to trace the source of the money Moshiri used to buy Everton - unlikely. Moshiri put no money in himself for the Arsenal shares only Usmanov did. The money Moshiri used for his Arsenal shares is shown in the law firm documents as a 'gift' from Usmanov. Usmanov then 'bought' the shares back from Moshiri who used the money to buy into Everton. I'd say that's worthy of investigating :bandit:
     
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  16. astro

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    Nope it's blatant #fraud and if the PL doesn't step in a few years from now we'll have half the PL "gifted" to Mansour's mates and the other half "gifted" to Usmanov's mates
     
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    A simpler solution that wouldn't need to require private information like disclosing money trails would be to simply say "you've been involved with Arsenal for years and no matter how good that candlelight dinner with Kenwright was you haven't suddenly become a lifelong blue, so if you want to swap clubs sell your Arsenal shares and come back after 5 years of no football investment"
     
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    Only it's not 'blatant fraud' at all.

    Moshiri was partnered with Usmanov at Arsenal for 9 years. He then sold Usmanov his stake and left, simple as that.
     
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    If it was #simpleas why is the name of Usmanov's company above your training ground?

    And why did Russian news announce Usmanov was the new owner of Everton before forced to #backpedal ?

    They got greedy and took the piss
     
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  20. johnsonsbaby

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    The law firm records show only Usmanov's money was used to purchase Arsenal shares, Moshiri put no money in. So the shares 'gifted' to him are then 'sold' back to the guy who bought them and you don't think that's just a little bit suspect?
     
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