The correlation is where they would rather make sure they can buy, carry, and use guns as a ‘right’ than do anything to prevent atrocities such as Vegas, Sandy Hook, Columbine, San Bernardino, Orlando, Blacksburg, Killeen, Austin, etc... That’s the correlation. There’s no individual or political will to change.
You’re really something, you know that? Selective quoting, aggressive posts, and major deflection. I give up with you, you aren’t interested or interesting any more. I’ll continue discussing with those capable of doing so.
Sadly not, never known in either of his aliases on here to back down. Obviously I didn’t make my point clearly enough for you, though everyone else seemed to get it. It is wrong to describe Americans as a ‘race’ and it is ignorant and narrow minded to bestow a single attribute to every single inhabitant of a country. Particularly when there is a very healthy debate within that country on the issue which you claim they all think the same on. My comments on knife crime and mopeds were to give you the contrast of making similar crass, over generalised and stereotypical comments about the British, but as usual you choose to ignore that and take things literally. But as it happens I do think perhaps we could be looking closer to home rather than endlessly telling other people how to run their lives, even if they are baffling to us. You seem to be obsessed with bashing the Americans, despite your many (clearly self interested gun toting libertarians, because they all are) claimed friends there. Top post.
Yes and it's spreading rapidly to over here unfortunately. The hating thing was first noticed when cinema crowds in Europe were cheering when the aliens in Independence Day brought down New York with their soopa doopa lasers. Don't think you can compare the guns with the knives - we do ban The carrying of knives, just that The scummy bastards keep carrying them.
That's weird. When I watched Independence Day the audience cheered when the alien got punched and at the end when they were defeated.
Yeah, but I was watching it in a very posh cinema in Chelsea. We thought the film was Gandhi 2 August 15.
Willy's description of Americans was crass, but I would say that a nation that has the 'right to bear arms' in its constitution and refuses to change it a quarter of a millennium later invites 'gun loving' generalisations.
Doesn’t make the generalisations valid though does it? ‘A quarter of a millenium’ nice hyperbole. I wasn’t making a comparison, just using an example to illustrate the faulty logic of ‘some Americans are passionate about their right to bear arms therefore all Americans are self interested’. To be fair, Chaz and Willy never post during the same period, so perhaps ‘alternative personas’ would be more accurate. Except the personas are identical, so that doesn’t really work either. Loads of people change their user names, or lock themselves out of their accounts and have to set up a new one, it’s no big thing.
'All generalisations are false, including this one' I think generalisations can be valid for comparative purposes. The US as a nation is certainly more gun-loving than the UK, but this doesn't mean that every citizen is so.
Yet another shooting at a church in Texas with multiple casualties........great thing this ‘right to bear arms’ How about a right ‘to not be shot by some **** with a gun’
Another mass shooting in a Texas Church. It really is a sad state for one of the most important countries.