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Article: Patience | Football, Hull City

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by 4tiger, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. 4tiger

    4tiger Active Member

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    I really think some people need to put things into perspective regarding this season and our club. Some of the negativity and completely stupid comments are baffling to say the least and people already calling for Pearson to go really need to think a bit more before they talk absolute rubbish.

    It took our club 104 years to get into the premier league and after been there for two years, people expect us to be back up there stright away and challenging for promotion. They forget how long it took us to get there, although I accept we should have played top flight before, and now think we have the right to be there all the time.

    The club has had huge debts over the last year and Person has inherited a squad of overpaid useless footballers and has slowly been replacing them all, with a very small budget. The majority of his sigings have been good and we now have a very young team with lots of potential, but it's not the finished article yet. If Pearson had of had a better budget, he may not have signed some of the players he has but he is working to what he has got. This summer he has spent £1.6m and we all said we needed probably 7/8 players to complete the team, this is absolutely nothing hance the amount of free transfers and loans we have had.

    The team needs time to gel and get used to playing together. We have so many young players and are obviously lacking a leader, striker etc... but just give the players time. I personally don't mind if it takes us a couple of seasons for Pearson to get the team together he really wants. Give them a couple of seasons to grow as a team and gain more experience, they're not ready to go up yet. Many of the players are still very raw and will become better players over the next few years. During this time Nigel can bring in more players as our financial situation hopefully improves and then we can make a push. Expecting anyhthing before that is unrealistic in my opinion.

    Like some of the players, Pearson is still a bit inexperieced. It is only his 4th full season as a manager I believe? He is very highly rated within the game and how many players has he signed when the player has come out and said they wanted to play for the manager and had heard how respected the manager was. You don't get these type of compliments if you're not a good manager. Ocasionally, like yesterday, he gets it wrong but he said he got it wrong and is going to change it for next week, lets give him a chance to do that rather than getting on his back.

    Sadly our time in the prem seems to have gained us some bandwagon jumpers and some "I pay for my ticket so I'll boo if I want" mentality type fans. The booing of players such as Harper and Garcia is disgusting and even yesterday when Brady was brought off there was booing. Okay, you might not agree with the decision, I didn't, and are frustrated with the performance, but to boo is pathetic. As Rosenior said on Humberside after the game, we need the fans to stay with us for the whole game, we have a young side that will come good but don't get on their backs. Booing the players is hardly going to make them play better for the fans, how must they feel? I feel embarrased to be associated with "fans" like these.

    Some of the comments made by people on here, on the radio and at the ground really annoyed me yesterday and I'm just trying to put things in perspective. For me if it takes another 5 seasons to allow this team to grow and Pearson to really stamp his mark on the club and then we get promoted, that is completely fine by me and is realistic. To expect miracles after 50 games in charge when building an entire team from scratch on a shoestring budget is completely unrealistic and then to start calling for the managers head and saying we should give him x amount more games or untill december really shows how some people are not willing to wait for success and want everything now. No other manager could have done better than what Pearson has done so far and people suggesting bringing a differnet manager in now is ridiculous as it would just take us back a season or two.

    Give them some time, get things in perspective and support them, not criticise at every minor detail. We are a work in progress so things will take a while to get right but when we do get it right it will be worth waiting for.

    Rant over

    UTT
     
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  2. leeroy

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    maybe the most sense i have seen on this board.

    RE: booing fans.... what happened to the time people were supporters? we need to support the team not constantly complain when the ball gets played backwards, or forwards for that matter.

    our fans seem to be the most fickle in the league this year, bring on more away games.... real supporters go to away games too
     
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  3. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    Excellent post 4tiger. I don't believe there will be anyone on here that does boo at games,but if there is,why not give us a post telling us,as a fan,what you think it will achieve.

    Not why you do it,but how you think it might help the team.
     
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    robingram02 Well-Known Member

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    I would say probability dictates there'll be a number of booers on here, whether or not they admit to it is another matter.
     
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  5. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    Percy,your'e a moaning twat. Do you boo ?
     
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  6. TigerRoo

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    Excellent initial post.
    Fans are just expressing their frustration after paying quite a substantial amount of money just to see the other team score is a bit ironic to say the least.
    It's happened before and it will happen again but we will all be here regardless.
    I am sure that the owner and Management are busting their guts to find a solution.
     
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  7. Arnold_Lane_HCFC

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    Cracking post 4t, which I agree with. Alas as we are seeing with Wenger at Arsenal football fans want success yesterday.

    Nigel Pearson is obviously hurting immediately after the game, so would expect his tone to be downbeat. Wonder what some of the idiots that slate him would have said if he had been Mr Joviality yesterday?

    Or imagine us having been beaten by Posh yesterday.

    As he also said in the interview, and which appears to have gone unnoticed by many, was how close the club came to EXTINCTION after falling out of the Prem. Yet some muppets expect us to return straight to the Prem.

    From where I sit, NP inherited a disinterested bunch when he took over. He has had to buy within a budget which has perhaps meant buying one or two average players to make do. NP has a proven track record of being succesful establishing strong succesful teams. He's not flash in the pan.

    But as Wenger built successive succesful teams over a period of years, and so to did Ferguson, so it appears to me is Nigel Pearson. Problem is where the former 2 got time, already numpties at our club are clamouring for more upheavel.
     
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  8. Frank1955

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    People can do what they like, if they want to boo they can. Stop trying to control others actions.
     
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  9. Arnold_Lane_HCFC

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    Course they can do what they like. Free speech and all that.

    But if you continually tell someone they are bad enough, for long enough - what do you think the ultimate outcome will be?
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    They can and they do, the question is, what do they think they're going to achieve?

    If they're aim is to make the team play even more badly, then it is indeed a good idea.
     
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  11. Frank1955

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    These are professionals who have played football their whole lives if booing makes them lose their focus they should think about an other job.
     
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  12. Kempton

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    Ah,now then maybe you can answer the question. As a fan,how does booing help the situation ?????
     
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  13. Arnold_Lane_HCFC

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    I'm sure if you told a professional fireman, or professional dinner lady, or professional soldier, that they are bad enough for long enough, they too will lose their focus.

    But as KK mentions above, apart from the old chestnut of 'I pay my money I'll do what I want' , please let us know what you think booing achieves?

    If I was paying a sh*t load of money each week to do something that made me want to express my displeasure of it, I would take the ultimate sanction and stop paying for it and not going.
     
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  14. hullborn

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    im sorry... but booing is one of a few ways of venting frustrating at a game. we are under-performing this season and still have the massive problem of not scoring goals. I believe the boo's are deserved.

    most of us are reasonable and dont expect to get back to the PL this season, or even next season, but we do expect to see some good performances and to see a few goals scored at the KC... the latter we've seen precious little of under NP.
     
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  15. Frank1955

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    If a professional makes a mistake or doesn't do things correct they need to know, if a mistake goes ignored it could be seen as accepted. If i was in their position and got bood it would fire me up to do better and get the passion flowing

    I don't boo, I don't mind if others do if they like. :)
     
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  16. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    i dont think you should boo, on the other hand i think not scoring in 13 out of 27 competitve home games is undefendable...and wonder how long you have to be patient before your allowed to say something?
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    Booing helps the opposition, anyone who does it is a thick twat. <ok>
     
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  18. Frank1955

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    That's just my opinion, it would be boring if we thought the same thing. No need for any insults.
     
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  19. Kempton

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    Another one telling us why people boo and why it's ok to boo. Your'e just stating the bleedin obvious.

    AS A FAN,HOW DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING TO HELP YOUR TEAM ?????
     
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    If the owners notice booing on a regular basis they may be tempted to change the management?

    I think booing, and letting the players and management know they've been ****e, is a lot more helpful then clapping them after a dire performance and letting them become even more complacent. You get the impression that Pearson actually thinks he's doing alright.
     
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