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Effect of Brexit

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Davylad, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    How many times has Farage stood to be elected by the voters and how many times has he been rejected? Why was Fox sacked and disgraced? Come on SH, I am sure you can find the answers to those simple questions.
     
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  2. superhorns

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    Farage created a party from nothing to become the largest party in the European elections. His one ambition in life was to secure a referendum on EU membership and to secure a 'leave' vote . He was totally successful in both aims, the most successful Uk politicians in recent Uk political history. Fox is a successful present government minister that will secure good trade deals for the UK with the rest of the world. I suppose it is easy to escape reality in your tiny enclave.
     
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  3. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Farage did once create a party that failed at every turn to get MPs. How many times did he try to get elected to Westminster without success? How many MPs or local councils do they have? Still waiting for your answer. Still waiting to see why Fox was sacked. Maybe he failed to get any trade deals selling flip flops to Italy? I am sure you must know, but don't really wish to say.
     
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  4. superhorns

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    You have been wrong on so many of your negative predictions. You must be getting a bit desperate now.
     
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  5. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    How funny. The best part of an hour and that is the only thing you can come up with. How many times has Farage been rejected by the voters as he stood to get into Westminster, and why was Fox sacked and disgraced?
    Another question for you. Why did Peter Bone call your government to account.
    I know that is now three questions for you. I hope you can cope.
     
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  6. superhorns

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    I have been watching a recording of The Last Post, it was a dated, a bit like your lefty politics. I suppose there is nothing much to do over there but whinge.
     
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  7. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If I were a lefty you might get a whole lot more from me. However as I am quite a moderate I will be happy to wait until you come up with the answers.
     
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  8. superhorns

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    I know the french TV is bad but surely you can find something better to do than whinge? France often tops the most depressed nation chart, but you don't have to join in.
     
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  9. yorkshirehornet

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    I sat with a bemoaning business man yesterday who was lambasting the Govt for their failure to progress talks, pay up what we owe and move towards a trade deal.

    I sat with a senior Leeds NHS manager last week who said cost of medical equipment from Germany had gone up 25% in the last 18 months mainly due to the falling pound
     
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  10. J T Bodbo

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    And what exactly has Fox achieved so far?
     
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  11. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Quite a day for Brexit news. Davis says one thing, May contradicts him, Davis puts out a revised version of what he said, so May says she still has confidence in him. This will be really exciting he told a select committee. Clearly playing for a draw and hoping to sneak through on a penalty shoot out.
    Sir Ivan Rodgers says there is no chance at all to have a deal ready by Oct 2018. 2000 pages of legal clauses to be prepared for a deal of this nature.
    Jon Thompson, the senior civil servant in HM Revenue and Customs , told the public accounts committee that he could not guarantee that a new customs system would be ready for Brexit in March 2019. 3000-5000 extra staff needed and if the new IT system didn't work they would have to fall back on the existing system that will not communicate with the new EU system.
    Toyota now demanding that the government give them further information so they can decide what their plans for the UK might be.
    France quite happy with existing customs arrangements at it's ports. If the UK wish to change them, they will have to pay the costs.
     
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  13. Bolton's Boots

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    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...ll-hit-economy-david-davis-says-a3668491.html

    To me, this shambles is become nothing other than a power struggle between May and Davis - two right hands not knowing what each other are doing or saying. Our problem is that neither gives two hoots about what happens to the economy, or about the rest of us, when the Brexit sh*t hits the fan - they have their millions squirreled away for the looming rainy days.

    And as for this cretin, Westminster's 'man in Scotland' David Mundell, he tries to give the appearance of being 'in the know' - but speaks even more pish than the other two put together.

    Mind you, they are all doing a power of good for the Independence movement. :)
     
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  14. oldfrenchhorn

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    What is certain is that if these reports had good news they would have been used to show the EU that we could be quite successful without their help. Of course they don't contain any, and the government don't want the MPs to get any ammunition to shoot them down. This is what people voted for, to have their representatives kept in the dark, and certainly letting the population at large who paid for the reports know what is going on is a total no, no. Getting back our democracy? I don't think so.
     
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    Further evidence was given yesterday at PMQs to confirm the May doesn't know whether she's coming or going.

    New Scottish Conservatory MP Luke Graham egged her on to berate the Scottish Government for the tardy roll-out of superfast broadband, claiming the roll-out here to be behind that of the rest of the UK - and of course she did so gleefully, backed by braying donkey noises from the ranks of her MPs.

    None of them had the gumption to realise that Telecomms is a reserved matter and the fault lay at their own door. Nor did they even bother to confirm the veracity of the claim - thanks to Consevatory dithering, the SNP had to jump and take over the roll-out earlier this year, and are now well ahead of the scheduled target of completion by 2021, with 86% of Scottish homes/businesses having superfast broadband access.
     
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  16. superhorns

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    There is more chance of the hornets winning the league than the Scots voting for Independence. Even the dimmest Scot is slowly realising Scotland would be bankrupt without the financial assistance from Whitehall. The dumped Salmond's fairy stories about oil income have been duly exposed as a mere figment of his fertile imagination, he should stick to comedy at the Edinburgh fringe.
     
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  17. superhorns

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    Champions League more like. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  18. oldfrenchhorn

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    Brexit Minister Steve Baker said that Theresa May’s administration is planning to bring forward a law for parliamentary scrutiny that would set out how the UK will move from being a full member to leaving the EU over a number of years.

    Britain is not yet able to say if new legislation will be needed to implement a Brexit transition deal, Prime Minister Theresa May’s spokeswoman said on Thursday, hours after a junior Brexit minister said the position was that it would be necessary.

    Yesterday it was Davis getting slapped down. Now this. Does anyone in this government have a clue what to say from one minute to the next?
     
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  19. superhorns

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    We are so fortunate in the UK to have such a strong and stable government. There is civil unrest in France, civil war in Spain and Germany is currently unable to form a government. There is also a far right surge in many other EU countries.
     
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  20. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I am not surprised that you no longer try to support the government in its ridiculous lurching from one position to a different one all on the same day. If it happened once in a while you could put it down to lack of communication, but this is now happening every day.
     
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