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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Even Olof and TC cant dig you out no matter how much you suck up to them.
     
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  2. lifecheshirewhite

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    you talking to your mirror <laugh>
     
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  3. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Why dont you shut up and let them at least try and give a reasoned response to the points that have been made. At least that way you might get a clue as to why you think you votes leave. Even if you would still be wrong.
     
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    In principle yes but in reality there has to be a third option. If the deal negotiated isn’t good enough and is rejected by parliament then yes by default we’d got to no deal but then there isn’t a parlimentary majority that would allow no deal. We’d be in a vote of no confidence territory.
     
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  5. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    I still think the no deal means staying in is a player. That way the government can struggle on without a general election. May and the tories will cling to power however they can...
     
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  6. lifecheshirewhite

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    Ow dear grumpy abuse a sure sign you've had your arse kicked,and you haven't made any points,just made up lies.<doh>
     
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  7. dbc

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    I think no deal is the way we head to another election.

    The staying in power makes me think that May will eventually try and accept a transition deal to try and kick it into the long grass for a couple of years. But their instinct to stay in power is bizarrely overruled when it comes to Europe the only thing they will actually sacrifice power for principle (on both the euroseptic and pro Europe division).

    So if they try and offer no deal they’ll lose the support of Ken Clarke, Anna Soubry, Ruth Davidson’s Scottish bloc and I can’t see any deal that would work for the EU on Northern Ireland’s border that doesn’t lose the DUP.

    But any attempt to try and introduce a transition deal will mean the Rees-Moggs and other rabid Brexiteers will chuck their toys out of Nanny’s pram and they’ll reject regardless of the consequences.
     
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  8. lifecheshirewhite

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    you forget labour support out,a deal will get the go ahead we will be out and you guys will sulk and cry.<cheers>
     
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  9. dbc

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    65% of Labour supporters voted remain and their soft Brexit approach helped in the last election. They will not (apart from a small number of MP’s) support hard brexit as they know it’s election suicide for them and also know that hard brexit is electoral suicide for the Tories.

    If I were to make any bets on this whole ****storm I’d make a pretty confident one that whilst David Davis has begun negotiations Kier Stamer will finish them. And I’m quite happy with that.
     
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    There will be a deal,and enough will support it and we will be out.<ok>
     
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    Bless....
     
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    Amen and Glory will be saying we will rejoin one day.<laugh>
     
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    Oh I've no doubt we'll be rejoining one day.

    90% of over 65's voted and they voted 64% leave and 36% to remain.

    Meanwhile 64% of 18-24 voted and they voted 71% to remain and 29 % to leave.

    The only bigger signifier than age of intention was education as 70% of voters with GCSE or lower qualifications voted to leave where as 68% of those with a degree education or higher voted to remain.

    As over 65's are much more likely to die soon and more and more of the younger generation are gaining degrees (currently 40%) it's fairly obvious that soon the overall consensus will be to remain.
     
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    The Education establishment throw degrees at students these days, its a fact that education has been dumbed down over the past forty odd years, no wonder we have a load of young, dumb, snowflake ****s who need to get a ****ing job instead of going on a ****ing gap year. Universities are loony left training grounds, full of idiots
    A reminder to you undemocratic losers, we are not leaving Europe you dumb ****s, we're leaving a corrupt club full of unelected, self serving pigs, called the EU
     
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    Once the youth see how much better it is out,we will never go back,the EU will implode within 5years anyway,there will be no EU.
     
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    And if we were to leave you would be agreeing with me.
     
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    Spoken by a bloke who never went to one....
    Nuffsed
     
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  18. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Six months in a row.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41751379
    However much the tories bribed Nissan and Honda to stay it wont be enough.
    Another six months of this Brexit damage and they will be off to make their cars in Europe.
     
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    You're wasting your breath to be fair, they're not looking at whats happening or taking any heed of it. Heads in the sand, only coming up to regurgitate sh*t that's already been debunked or comments along the lines of "well we're getting out so there". Its not got any less scary, in fact the opposite.
     
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  20. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    It's never a waste of breath. In the face of pig headed obstinacy all the rest of us can do is point out the facts of the matter and wait for the saner ones to see the light. One way or another despite the Daily mil/ Murdoch press and the rabid Tories we will not leave.
    It may be difficult to remain magnanimous when the day comes...
     
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