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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    They would have been hanged anyway.
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    So?
     
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  4. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    It's not as though WW2 was just any old war though. Churchill will go down in history as a crucial figure in the biggest and most important conflict the world has ever seen. Non-stories like the deaths of a few criminals will be forgotten.
     
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  5. RebelBhoy

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    evidently. Doesn't mean he wasn't a **** though.
     
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  6. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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  7. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    so there were no concentration camps?

    The man was a ****.
     
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  8. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    The term Concentration Camp as you are no doubt aware was termed in the Boer war. They were known as such because they held large numbers of Boers, therefore they were "Concentrated" in that camp. It does not mean that they were tortured or murdered like the Nazi ones which are similar in name only.

    Churchill was indeed a ****, a terrible person and a bully, but he's the greatest Briton in history because of what he did for us and because he was a Giant of a politician.
     
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  9. RebelBhoy

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    I never said any different. I just said he was a **** and was accused of wumming because of it. even those, like you, that like him agree with that.
     
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  10. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Supposedly he was was good at witty put downs.
     
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  11. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    But you were dangling the worm of wummery, fortunately I know my military history and I knew what you meant. <laugh>

    It's immaterial surely though, we could trawl back through history and find many great people who could be described as ****s for what they did in their early years. Mandela for instance would be a **** in some people's eyes but his greater achievements surely cancel out his ****ishness overall?
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    He coined the phrase "Russ is pure Beeling so he is".

    True story <ok>
     
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  13. Null

    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    <laugh> Aye sure Russ mate...
     
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  14. RebelBhoy

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    I wasn't dangling anything. I just think he was a ****. And he was. I'm no fan of eamon de valera, but politically he made **** out of Churchill.
    I am sure you'd find ****ish things about a lot of people but Churchill was a man who displayed a basic lack of humanity. That may have made him a great leader during a conflict, but any other time he is nothing but a drunken ****.
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    He was a great Politician though.
     
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  16. RebelBhoy

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    In a conflict yeah. i never denied that. He did get rinsed by Dev though (not you, DeValera). He made a bit of a dick of himself there.
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

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    I Don't honestly know, as you probably know when it comes to Irish history i'm practically a blank slate.
     
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  18. RebelBhoy

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    Fair dues.
     
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  19. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they have much in the way of history. You rarely hear them talk about it for sure...
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

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    <laugh>
     
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