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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Presumably the EU won't support the Kurds because Spain will dig its heels in (the Catalonian issue) which is what shafted wee Sturgeon's ambitions for Scotland to be an independent EU member
     
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  2. sb_73

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    It’s not all about the EU you know. What’s your view? What do you think the UK stance should be (currently it’s stay in a strong Iraq)?

    Presumably the Tory/DUP government should support independence, making another country we can pretend to be negotiating a trade deal with.
     
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  3. GoldhawkRoad

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    Like you, I'm sympathetic with the Kurds. But with the UK trying to hang on to Scotland, and Spain trying to keep Catalonia, it's naive to expect policies to change.
     
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  4. Lawrence Jacoby

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    I believe the U.K. should cease to interfere in all overseas concerns as history has shown we are very poor at it and usually make things a lot worse. By that I am in no way dissing the work done by independent charities but ask any of them and most will say they get little help from the U.K. government . They only step in if there is some short term PR in it

    I also believe the super rich news media does little apart from exposing bad news to in effect sell it for money

    Time to put our own life jacket on first

    I say that because the U.K. has a culture of after reaction and not prevention. Natural events of course are outside mans control and always will be

    I know the money I give to MSF makes a real difference whereas many of the U.K. charities I have worked for are nothing more than tax write offs
     
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  5. TheBigDipper

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    Yes. It really does seem like they've upped the ante and turned it into a negative lifestyle that eats most of them up and spits them out. On an aside, the same could be said of brown-skinned boys born in Britain to first-gen immigrant Muslim parents who send their kids to the wrong sort of religious school and don't notice what's happening.
     
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    Royal Marine who lost THREE limbs in Afghanistan has won silver at the Invictus Games... perhaps Emma Dent Coad could MOCK them both.
     
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  7. durbar2003

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    Where have we made it worse?
     
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  8. Stroller

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    Where are all the posts complaining about the make-up of the QT audience?
     
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  9. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Cornwall
     
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  10. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Watching QT
    Did like Hitchens comment about we have nothing to sell

    Jaguar! ... better off relaunching the Allegro

    The Labour bloke has just knackered that party
     
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  11. Lawrence Jacoby

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    NhS winter crisis!

    Every year

    This imo is because the U.K. has too people pretending to be ill
     
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  12. Uber_Hoop

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    Or maybe free people pretending...? :)
     
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    I wish to complain about the make-up of the QT audience - far too much rouge. Oh, and that eyeshadow, dahlinks! :)
     
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    After last weeks debacle I didn’t watch.
     
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  15. sb_73

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    One of the UKs problems is the reverse, we are too shy to get ourselves checked out and treated early. The other is that our health system is underfunded and understaffed. Sickness absence from work has fallen massively here over the last 20 years, and is much lower than in France and half that in Germany. The work shy skivers.
     
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    Mr Shouty was a total pain in the arse....
     
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  17. Stroller

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    Highlights provided by Peter Hitchens, which says quite a lot. The audience were universally dire, but very pro-Brexit.
     
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  18. sb_73

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    On certain subjects Hitchens P is very good. And he is aware enough to say that, given his class, education and advantages, he can comment on the problems of the world (from his perspective) from a kind of insulated distance. He has what he calls a pessimism about public affairs, which I would call cynicism, which I sadly share, without sharing many of his conclusions.

    The QT audiences, whether pro or anti Brexit, have long been a subject of despair for me. If these people really do represent the British then we really do deserve the politicians we have.
     
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    Khan is trying to ban the use of wood burning stoves in London as part of his air quality measures.

    Clearly a hard core left wing assault on the middle classes who have these trendy appliances, in addition to central heating. Power to the people!

    Doesn’t bother me as I don’t live in London and have a very expensive and nearly realistic electric version of a wood burning stove (my house is full of useless objects which assert my social position), which has only ever been turned on for the visual effect, never to provide heat. Got it because to get a real one would have required scaffolding (again) to do something to a dodgy chimney and for once my ‘don’t be ridiculous’ response was accepted. Plenty of my obscenely privileged neighbours have the real thing though, and I have to say I do love the smell of woodsmoke of an evening when I’m walking the dog.

    Sadly our new local Labour MP still hasn’t bothered to open a constituency office so difficult for local eco warriors to draw this issue to his attention.

    Have you got a new dog-hippo yet Strolls? Our neighbours had their ancient, blind, deaf, demented and incontinent spaniel Figo put down a couple of weeks ago after he collapsed with heart problems. I miss the old bugger, let alone them. They are not replacing, making do with a really posh cat, which can best be described (by one of its owners) as ‘evil’.
     
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  20. West London Willy

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    Khan will be gone soon. He's just removed earning capability for 40,000 londoners and increased commute costs for a third of the workforce, simply because he wanted to suckk up to the unions. He's just lost the next election imo...
     
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