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Match Day Thread Southampton vs Manchester United, Saturday 23rd September, 15:00

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Le Tissier's Laces, Sep 18, 2017.

  1. VocalMinority

    VocalMinority Well-Known Member

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    It is the Echo and something may have been lost in translation!
     
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  3. SAINTDON13

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    Just been watching the highlights and at the end there was supposed to be four minutes extra time, actual time played was a lot less, and nothing added for the Moanino sending off, not that it would have made any difference, we could have been out there for a fortnight and not scored.
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Frustrated the hell out of me at the time. I thought the performance of the ref and assistants was awful tbh. Sorry Tom.
     
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    Just from the highlights, the 4th official should have dealt with that one better, for example by ignoring it.
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

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    There were no outright clangers but just all round the level was poor.
     
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    just had a hot food dish from waitrose for my lunch.
     
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  8. RedandWhiteManofKent

    RedandWhiteManofKent Well-Known Member

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    Wow, that's very interesting.

    Not sure how this relates to the saints v utd game unless you had a chicken and bacon fellaini :afro:
     
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  9. SailorSaint

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    I know what you mean, I felt at the time it was a clear piece of gamesmanship by Mourinho to disrupt the momentum that Saints had built up and the officials played right into his hands by (a) not ignoring him and (b) allowing him to eat up about 90 seconds of the match.
    The whole situation with match timing has become a bit of a farce that distracts from enjoyment of the game, in my opinion. Back in the 90s we lived in the US for a few years and went to see our local professional soccer team (iirc they were called the Raleigh Flyers - the league was a few steps down from the MLS, so the standard was not great). They had a number of special rule "enhancements", one of which was a big match clock in the corner of the stadium. Every time the ball went dead, it stopped. The game was made up of two halves of 30 minutes each (based on the clock), which may sound like a short match, but actually the whole thing, including the half time interval, lasted just under 2 hours, just like a normally-timed match. It did not interfere with the flow of play, except to make timewasting a futile activity and it must have made the life of the referee simpler as he did not need to check his watch all the time. I can't remember, but I guess that they finished the match the first time the ball went dead after the time expired, like in rugby, which could lead to some exciting finishes.
     
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  10. st_brendy

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    It's one of many initiatives currently being proposed, with the general aim of speeding up the game/having the ball in play more. Being able to just put the ball down from a corner or FK and run with it is another (ie without the need to pass it first).

    So who knows, maybe in a couple of years that could be how we all watch football.
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Thing is, it had never encountered Fraser Forster. :)
     
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  12. San Tejón

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    The time wasted on substitutions never seems to be adequately added on, at the end of a game.
    Is it still a blanket 30 seconds per sub? Or did I imagine that?
    For me, there should be a timer on the board that starts ticking down as soon as the 4th official displays the details of the change.
    If the substitution hasn't been made by the time the clock hits zero, then the incoming player should be kept on the sideline for a further 30 seconds, or even a minute (or even until the ball next goes dead, whichever is the longer). If the time wasters had to play with one player short, for a short time, they just might make the change quicker.
    Alternatively, as the extremely slow walk, from the farthest reaches to of the pitch, is gamesmanship, how about a yellow card if not off the pitch within 30 seconds, then if it was a second yellow, he wouldn't get replaced
    Something does need to be done about it.
     
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  13. Lff

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    Something does need to be done. But rather than over complicate matters, why not one player comes off the other one goes on like in rugby league. It just happens, no fanfare, no delays.
     
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    Managers should just sit down like they always used to. I think Kenny Dalgleish was the first to stand but he just used to lean against the dugout. The over reaction by managers to many decisions just causes problems all round.
     
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    Mourinho made the officials look like chumps. He was clearly sent to the stands for encroaching the pitch when not only was the ball in play, but we had possession and we were breaking down that side of the pitch. So what does the ref do, he stops the game to speak to him, sends him off, then lets him play his little game of shaking hands with all the southampton staff. God, I don't think I've ever wanted to see an equiliser more, the arrogant prat. The ref let him do that, and added nothing on, why bother even talking to him?
    Want to see him lose......but not yet......Palace are in town next! <laugh>
     
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  16. Bill Hill

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    Mourinho wanted to disrupt our flow and the ref fell for it. By the time play resumed they had re grouped. Really poor from the officials. Its basic stuff.
     
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    That is so right but why has the manager asked his team to continue playing like that in the future? Surely that's relegation form not scoring and relying on no score draws?
     
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    The fourth officials are like PCSOs
    I don't see why they can't just send managers off themselves, instead of wasting the main refs time
     
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    Fellani was funny during the game. Started off trying to bully us with the usual flying elbows, heavy late tackles and trying to knock smaller players around however he hadn't expected to Lemina to bully him.
    So he started joining in with Manure's embarrassing diving performance. Again the dim referee feel for 90% of this but even he got fed up with this behaviour as the play acting got more obvious.
    Long appeared (live) to simply run into the back of the giant who threw himself to the floor again with a scream and then grabbing his ankle did a comedy roll about. Having been treated he limped to the sideline still in agony and then when the referee waved him on, he sprinted on with no obvious long term damage.
    This was duely greeted with boo's from everyone around me
     
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