She is and we are saying 16 in this country is the legal age (thats our magical boundary). The point I'm making is grande still LOOKS about 15 (certainly when she was first out) and thats the pertinent point i think ern is making. If someone looks like their 30 but is 16 is that more sick than someone who is 25 but look 15. In japan the legal age is 13 which seems horrendously low. To go to a cafe to have people talk dirty to you is weird, even more so when they are 15 but i would say that its slightly more creepy than the obsession with the objectifying of our pop stars
I wouldnt say she looks anything like 15. Maybe when she first started singing, I dont know how many years ago that was, but certainly not now.
I just think we live in a ****ed up world, where peoples thoughts are more reality every day. Girls in say, certain Asian and African regions at 16 are a hell of a lot more mature than typical European and western white girls, their upbringing and culture have contributed to that. I have a very close female friend in the Philippines who is a lawyer, her daughter gets married next month at 22, she was brought up in a loving, decent family but she has told me of families so desperate in the Phills, that they have their young daughter and sons preforming sex acts via Skype and other **** to full fill the needs of perverted western men for 10 dollars.. So sad that desperation gets people that way and personally I'd track every payer and hand job merchant down and ****ing castrate them. I haven't got a clue about Japanese young girls, I know for some reason their porn industry seems to like tying women up and abusing them but then again they make TV programmes on mainstream that use humiliation as the recipe for a success. Maybe that's why Kim doesn't like them but one things for sure they have weird persona in anything sexual, maybe down to inadequacies in their lives.. I have a daughter coming up 8 who wears 10/11 clothes, she's 4'-7", blonde and blue-eyed and has matured fast in life seeing her mother as a daily cabbage through disability and I don't mean that in a bad way. If any ****er crossed a line in thought with her then I would castrate them. She has a brilliant mother who talks to her about lots of things, I'm sure perverted old farts would have been mentioned..
Abuse is abuse is abuse. The girls in Playboy mansion are abused more than these 15 year olds in Japan. But good ole Hugh is a ledge But hey its the japs so its worse We idolise *****s like Elvis and Polanski but talking dirty in Japan is evil Not having a go at you and certainly not making it a race thing here, just saying it is about boundaries
I agree with you, but I don't think that we should make it illegal or anything. One issue is clearly the mixed up approach to adulthood that we've currently got in this country. When does someone become responsible for their own decisions? At 16 you can have sex, get married, join the armed forces, leave school, live on your own and pay taxes. You have to wait another year to get a driving license, though you can use a 50cc moped. Then the year after that you can vote, smoke, drink and watch some films. Where's the thinking in any of that? You can have sex, but you can't watch people having sex on film until two years later? Pick an age and say that people are adults when they reach it. The current mishmash is nonsense. Or in some people's cases on this thread, nonce sense.
Elvis is dead, so it's a bit late to do anything about him. Polanski should definitely be in jail, though. He would be too, if he hadn't have done a runner.
You could add loads of names to them two that have been in the film, music and entertainment industries back to 50 years or so, I mean didn't Cary Grant have a thing about mortuaries? Add to that Saville, Kangaroo boy and Glitter that we know of and you are talking about mainstream big stars in their day and sadly, respected at the time.. In the new age of how we communicate in my opinion has opened the door to so many more nonces, perverts and just the plain sick in the fact it is so easy to have a conversation within minutes of logging in a phone, tablet or computer..
I just picked a couple at random. There are many others There is a campaign to "forgive" Polanski and he does win awards including an Oscar i believe
**** knows why. He drugged up a 13-year-old kid and anally raped her. It's not even solely about her being underage, as she said no to everything that he did. Woody Allen signed the petition objecting to his arrest in Switzerland. Why doesn't that surprise me?
If the 19 year old is doing it willingly, and as an adult, has proper understanding of what she is doing then it is her choice. If she's forced into it.. No not good. But if willing... Fine. The 15 year old is not an adult and thus not able to give willing consent. 15 year olds are not mature. They don't fully understand the consequences of their actions because they lack life experience. Although in full admission I think many 19 year olds are a bit immature too and age should probably be higher. Obviously 19 is better than 15 though.
For me a 19 year old is as mature in the way they have been brought up and I am talking morals and principles here and the values they hold for their's, their siblings and their parents life as well as their openness to the big wide world.. I won't include 15 year olds though, they are young, easily influenced and should never be considered as an object of any mans desire, their lives are about to begin, any man that ****s with that deserves to be well and truly ****ed over..
If you are a grown man keep away from young girls. Why is this so difficult to understand for many people on here. Stop making excuses, stop with the ifs and buts, stop creating scenarios. Big Ern is a nonce.
19 year old consenting to sex with however many men should not even be discussed in the same breath as a 15 year old girl being manipulated and abused. What is wrong with people on here? Is this forum hiding a secret ****ing ring or something?
Yep no matter the rights and wrings of whatever else, it's completely incomparable to Erns comments which are utterly indefensible.
Very true... Although a great many 19 year olds are not very mature. For the record my wife was still only 19 when she got engaged to me. Saying yes is proof she couldn't have been mature. (I proposed 3 days before her turning 20)
Big Ern said as long as they have tits and hair they are sexually mature. What ages are we including there then? 12? Now he's throwing it at us like we're the bad eggs. I'm happy to be the bad egg most of the time but not with this sort of thing.