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Match Day Thread Crystal Palace vs Southampton, Saturday 16th September, 12:30

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Le Tissier's Laces, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Ian Thumwood

    Ian Thumwood Well-Known Member

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    There was a curious piece in yesterday's Echo which suggested that Pellegrino's honeymoon period was over and, quoting a number of statistics, suggested that we had gone backwards as an attacking force. I felt that it was a particularly ill-judged article as I think the we are more entertaining to watch than last season albeit the attacking failing remains. Quite clearly, the forward line is a massive problem and I don't feel that Pellegrino has been helped by the board insofar that this problem has not been rectified by a signing as important as finding a replacement for Jose Fonte.

    I don't quite understand the negativity and think that the Echo's comments are largely attributable to the management change at Palace last week. Last season was significant because the management team were not good enough and, for the first time, the recruitments brought in were not good enough to replace the talent going out. Hojbjorg and Pied both look increasingly like a players who are going to be left on the margins and I am becoming less and less convinced by Redmond. I feel we have squandered a lot of money on mediocre players or players like Boufal who have talent but can't attempt to our style of football. It is really fascinating as a supporter to compare the transfer acquisitions with the situation with jack Stephens who, I think, has been nothing short of a revelation, I am wondering how much it would have cost to have signed a defender of his calibre in the window and truly think this a player who is going to emerge as the academy's best product since Luke Shaw. With this in mind, surely it is time for the reserves to start contributing to leading the forward line ? I was amazed that Sam Gallagher was allowed to go out on loan and it does best the question that if Redknapp saw something in him, why didn't Pellegrino. I would like to see his thrown in a the deep end. So far, I think I am correct is saying that the academy has only provided the erratic JWP and Stephens to this first time in the league this season despite some substitute appearances by other players. When you think of attacking players from earlier generations such as the Wallaces, Shearer, Le Tiss, etc, we just don't seem to develop these kinds of players anymore. The last forwards to make any impression in the first team at leading the line were the likes of Dexter Blackstock and McGoldrick who both ending up performing in the Championship. Our better attacking players like Lambert, Mane, Pelle, Sharpe, Jay-Rod, etc have all been transfers from other clubs.

    With regard to today's game. I would be pleased with a draw. With Hodgson coming in, it just feels like Palace will bounce back and you can anticipate that there will be some sort of response from the home team. I am not convinced we will get anything out of today's game but I still think that Les Reed should have given Pellegrino more support in acquiring a forward as the current three are not cutting the mustard so far this season.
     
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  2. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    It is time for James to move on from being a player of promise to being the real deal.
     
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  3. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Can think of another five who fit that.
     
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  4. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Minus the cheeky grin.
     
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  5. Ian Thumwood

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    First game of the season at home and he was our best player by a country mile although he was been pretty poor since and anonymous against Watford last weekend. I wonder if this season will be the last throw of the dice for him and whether he will be moved on if he doesn't make sufficient progress. The success of Stephens does not help his cause either but I do feel JWP needs a run in the team before hitting form.

    I think Hjojberg will be moved on next season though - just a personal thought.
     
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  6. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Matchday!

    Just arrived in Croydon and excitement building.

    Up the ****ing Saints!
     
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  7. Number 1 Jasper

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    Did you get the train , or park nearby to the stadium ?
     
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  8. AdkinsLeGod

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    Saints' snapchat shows vvd with the matchday squad at selhurst...
     
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    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Parked in Croydon just waiting for a train now
     
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    Enjoy the afternoon . I will be watching F1 Qualifying from Singapore :)
     
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    Virgil on the bench.
     
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  13. saintsfcfan

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    I actually really like that line-up!

    That bench though.....:1980_boogie_down:
     
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  14. st_brendy

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    I did suggest Long for Gabbi might be the way to go, if we weren't to change formation.

    Still got Tadic and Redmond the wrong way round though!
     
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    Happy with that. Hope Tadic & Reds can find some sort of form today.
     
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  16. Romsey_Saint

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    Would prefer to have seen McCarthy in goal but see where you are coming from.
     
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  17. Saints Fan4Life

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    Can't say I'm too impressed with that ... dropping Stephens? Tadic and Redmond still starting?
     
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  18. st_brendy

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    Tadic didn't start the last game.

    And whilst I am a huge Stephens fan (more so than Maya), I did think he was very poor against Watford.
     
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    Virgil will come on and score the winner. :)
     
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  20. Saints Fan4Life

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    And did he do enough to be restored to the starting line-up when he come on?
     
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