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Brexit or Remain voters?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Toby, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. DUNCAN DONUTS

    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    Archibald and Tobias have obviously signed up already and enjoying their cultural enrichment.
     
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    <laugh><applause>
     
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  3. Mind The Duck

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    You didn't complain at the time you ****
     
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  4. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    You just woken up?
     
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    Cant believe you slipped away and left the door unlocked you tramp.

    P.S you might have bad aids
     
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  6. DUNCAN DONUTS

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    GAY4PAY
     
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    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I'll bet he wiped his cock on the curtains, probably stuck your toothbrush up his arse as well.
     
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    As long as he hooks me up with BT Sports later ill survive
     
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    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    That's the spirit.
     
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    That reminds me i said id give him something for the pain.
     
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  11. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Ayrshire folk have been taking in asylum seekers for years. Tbf black folk are probably a step up from the usual Paddies they take in.
     
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  12. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Frankie Boyle's take on it all.

    When I was a kid, Bank Holiday schedules leant heavily on the disaster movie. While today’s children snuggle up in front of stories of talking animals and plucky mermaids, we were left to make sense of hordes of screaming people being boiled alive or crushed by masonry as a result of arrogant cruise liner Captains and careless architects. And these were not like today’s disaster movies. It wasn’t an excuse for CGI tsunamis and meteor strikes, and we weren’t really hoping that the people would all survive. Indeed, the appeal was sort of that a group of people with pronounced character flaws would get the brutal death they so richly deserved, and the viewing experience was largely one of speculating about the order.

    Which brings us to Brexit. Who could be a more fitting choice to pilot this listing ship into shark infested waters than Theresa May? The Tories say “no deal” is better than a “bad deal”, and perhaps the same is also true of prime ministers. Aloof, vindictive, having lost the support of her crew and passengers, she’ll be gone by the first ad break. David Davis, a Chief Negotiator who looks like he’d end up paying full price on a DFS sofa, is another classic piece of casting; exactly the sort of scoffing, joshing presence that we can tolerate in a storyline because his awfulness makes it all the sweeter when steam from a burst pipe blasts him screaming into his constituent molecules.

    And then there’s the passengers. I think there’s a mistaken belief that Brexit supporters are naive and have been totally misled. To engage with them, it’s important to understand that they are reasonably clear about what they want, and what getting it might entail. In some ways, austerity may have trained people for Brexit. Hard to threaten people with low growth when that’s all they can remember. I think most Brexit voters understand that it will make travel much harder and don’t care. Just a casual observation based on the few Brexit voters I’ve met, but generally it seems like their xenophobia is stronger than their desire to trace Lord Byron’s footsteps to the Temple of Poseidon. We won’t get free healthcare in Europe. I imagine Bulgarian families are rejoicing that they can take their children to A&E without having to shield them from a scouser getting a stranger’s tongue piercing removed from their foreskin.

    Brexit has managed to get immigration down and exports up, admittedly by making the pound worthless. Unemployment is falling, as the amount of vacancies for hate crime advisors soar. Immigration was always going to go down after a Brexit vote: in much the same way that if you wanted to have fewer visitors you’d fill your front lawn with gnomes holding union jacks and a frothing bulldog. Perhaps this is a natural endpoint of individualism. With a philosophy where people are told that is their sense of self that is important, why wouldn’t they distrust experts, why wouldn’t they look inside themselves for guidance? When we look inside ourselves we tend to find not ideologies, but neuroses. Many people in Britain lately seem to have looked into their hearts and found little more than a dislike of hearing a conversation in another language, a hatred of women, and a gnawing fear that they’re being taken for a mug.

    Do you remember during the Edward Snowden revelations when the Head of the Cabinet Office went round to the Guardian’s offices and wanted them to smash their hard drives with a hammer? Because he didn’t really understand what data was. Similarly, we might not have a modern understanding of what sovereignty is. Perhaps a modern concept of sovereignty might involve owning the property in your capital city, or your own railway system. At the moment Britain is in a strange position where we seem to be sanguine about foreigners owning our infrastructure, we just don’t want them picking our fruit.

    The EU is flawed and problematic, and all those other words we use when we can’t be bothered explaining what is wrong. For a start, it’s deeply racist, and pretty much stops where the tan line becomes permanent. In fact, even that observation rests on the racist idea that EU countries are white monocultures. Fretting about our freedom of movement while thousands of people drown in the Mediterranean is racist. The rise of Brexit sentiment isn’t the rise of racism: to me it seems to be the swapping of a patrician, structural racism for a more volatile and demotic one. The pre-structural racism of a hideous new society.
    Of course, disaster movies were also marked out by moments of unexpected nobility, and sacrifice. So maybe this isn’t a very good metaphor after all. Maybe Brexit is just a little scene in a totally different disaster movie. It suppose it might be more like a brief cutaway to someone angrily trying to fish something out of a toaster with a knife, just before they disappear in the incendiary light of a nuclear explosion.
     
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    At the moment Britain is in a strange position where we seem to be sanguine about foreigners owning our infrastructure, we just don’t want them picking our fruit.

    This sums it up pretty neatly I thought.
     
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    So you like to quote opinions but you didn't vote that makes you kinda special :)
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    You being able to type whilst clinically brain dead makes you even specialler.
     
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    You make me laugh yer spastic, not the first time you quoted ****e like that yet you didn't vote. I remember you beeling over Scots not voting for independence, seems it's you that is brain dead not me.
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    *ya

    What's Scots not voting for independence got to do with Frankie Boyle ranting about Brexit? In fact what has me not voting in the European referendum got to do with me posting a rant by Frankie Boyle about Brexit? In fact why the **** am i bothering asking you any questions when i know you are too ****ing stupid even to know why you keep posting the same **** day after day?
     
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    I keep posting the same ****e day after day because you like others keep spouting and quoting the same ****e time and time again. You claimed you didn't care at the time, but to quote the crap you do clearly shows where your political views lay, so that makes you one of the lazy fuking remainers that never got off their arse to vote but then want to bitch about it afterwards, in the same way you went off on one over Independence or the lack of it due to some spastic Scots! Yeah i'm stooopid, bravo, same old same old, but no more stooopid than your very own Scottish spastic logic.

    Line cast..
     
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  19. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    ^^^^^^Didne even bother reading and just took for granted its drivel
     
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    Both the Tories and Labour privatised everything and continue to do it now.

    Do we get a vote on Chinese power stations being built or British rail being sold off ?

    No, and remaining a part of the EU wouldn't bring back our infrastructure .

    Also Franky Boyle writes for the Guardian and gets paid bucket loads of cash by the BBC and live tours so lives very comfortably.

    To say that foreigners just come here in the summer as fruit pickers is over simplifying and disingenuous .
    They are plasterers plumbers builders bricklayers electricians factory workers and as they would only earn a third or less than what they can earn here they will do many of these jobs cheaper than English people.
    They are simply cheap labour and as a result employers can drastically reduce their wage bill by filling their businesses with East Europeans.
    Most working class peoole see little or no benefit to having tons of migrant workers competing for low skilled jobs so they voted to leave the EU to stem the tide of cheap workers.
    That's not racism it's self preservation.
     
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