Seeing as you used the same link twice today from the Express I assumed that was your main source of information.
I was trying to help another poster that was obviously not paying attention. He was probably playing his Pete Seeger LP.
In his imagination we all like Pete Seeger and we all eat lentil soup. We all have beards and sandals and a barefoot wife (or partner) with a long, self made, dress - little does he know ! What type of music do you think SH. listens to Yorkie ?
I'm a soul man really but like rock, classical and quite a bit of modern stuff, look up 'The Kings Parade' an undiscovered young group once described by Boris johnson as the 'best buskers in London' They are always playing in Germany Cologne, get to see them.
Right here you are, what would I do about Brexit. Firstly the government must realize that what we should be looking at is the overall good of the country, not just parts of it. The policies that have been followed have split the country more or less evenly in two as shown in the referendum and the general election. One of it's aims should be to reunite the population as far as possible, and to continue in the same way will not do it. We have seen a PM contradicting herself and making U-turns, clearly seeking to keep herself in office, and only supported by a minority of her own party who are fearful that should another election take place their seats are not safe. Step one is for the moderate, you might call them one nation Tories, to get rid of her. Quite easy to do as if they choose to vote down parts of the forthcoming bills she will be finished. Ensure that in the election of a new party leader someone that is acceptable to all parties within Westminster comes forward. Really quite simple if a candidate promises to work with, rather than tell them what they will do. Step two get rid of Johnson who is a laughing stock around the world, get rid of Davis who is out of his depth, and Fox too, as all he is managing to do is collect air miles. Form a new government team that is far better able to deal with the crisis we are in, or heading towards. I would include some moderates from all parties where possible to show that this is a national government and does take seriously the needs of the whole UK. Step three would be to ask the EU to suspend talks while a different approach was agreed. I believe that they would agree to this if they could see that the current inflexible attitude could change. Step four would be to open up to the public what could work for the good of the country, instead of hiding behind the current blockage of bad news. Tell people that because of loss of market access Japan is considering how to protect the money they have invested. Telling the truth would be hard, but surely people would rather know. Step five would be to evaluate what can be taken forward from the current position and what should not. Why these proposals are being made should be told quite clearly to the electorate. If people from the whole UK had some trust in politicians much of the current debate would not be taking place. My suggestion is one that seeks to rebuild that trust and bring people to an agreement about what should happen next. Without writing a book this has to be a brief summary of how I think from my middle of the road position. Now I am out for dinner.
This is simply a wish list that is totally unachievable. You have not answered my question of what you are hoping to achieve by constantly looking for the negatives. I cannot believe the UK government is scouring football forums for alternative ideas. Theresa May is as middle of the road as you will find in the Tory Party, any replacement is likely to be a more traditional Tory, further to the right. A successor is more than likely to be a Brexiteer. The Conservative Party was again chosen by the electorate to form a government, they clearly won a large majority over the only alternative party. The UK's Brexit negotiators are doing a good job in the face of complete intransigence from their opposite numbers. It would not matter who we had representing us nobody would agree to the huge and undeserved ransom. I would still like to know why you constantly feel the need to wallow in UK negativity, especially while you are living in France with its multitude of problems.
David Davis needs to take my old mate along, Peter Bone. <img class="lazy-fallback" src="http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/285x190/847781_1.jpg" alt="Brexit news Peter Bone rubbishes European Union Brexit bill attempts" title="Brexit news Peter Bone rubbishes European Union Brexit bill attempts"> 'How much do EU owe us?' Peter Bone rubbishes Brussels attempts to charge UK for Brexit
The country has been split for a lot longer than the last couple of years Frenchie. The problem is that there is no consensus as to what post Brexit Britain will look like. The more I hear of 'economic' talk the more depressed I become - a post Brexit vision of Britain opening its arms to the rest of the World as a kind of champion of free trade, open to TTIP style relationships with all and sundry is a nightmare scenario for every environmentalist and defender of worker's rights - we have too much World Trade already. At the other extreme the absence of many EU. rules would make it a lot easier for a future Labour government to bring things like the railways and energy under state control (It would also free us of CAP) - which would, in turn, be a nightmare scenario for some others on this board. Which way would a post Brexit Britain go ? There is no consensus on this. I do not think that the EU. will give us any more time to find a common negotiating position - they need an end to the insecurity. So it may be a case of - every course looks difficult, but to hover between courses indefinitely is unthinkable. We should be getting these negotiations behind us as quickly as possible and, if necessary, paying everything they ask for quickly because it may just be the case that negotiations are easier from outside. What we do not know is whether negotiations from outside of the EU. would be possible with individual EU. states (as opposed to with the EU. as a whole). On the level of freedom of movement there is a measure of flexibility - the EU. has never regulated Turkish migration to Germany and has also never regulated Indian migration to the UK - so, theoretically, EU. states can have separate deals independently of the EU. Could freedom of movement be possible with eg. France or Germany but not with Poland ?
Oh come on! Your question, verbatim, was: What would you like the UK government to do? He's answered it, quite extensively. The "wish list" is achievable where there's a will - how do you think Churchill got in in time of war? There was a will for a government of national unity! Perhaps you've asked the wrong question? OFH doesn't constantly look at the negatives, but then the positives are either a bit thin on the ground or are pie in the sky. Theresa May is a Thatcherite. She has shown her true colours with regard to the EU and brexit by not carrying out her duties properly whilst Home Secretary and thus allowing the unnecessary groundswell of antipathy to rise, then carrying on through with the brexit policy without regard to the consequences. The tories may well have the largest Parliamentary representation in Westminster, but it is a significantly reduced majority propped up by a bunch of clock-stopping religious nut jobs. Reasons to be cheerful are difficult to find. Uncertainty is the only certainty at the moment.
His wish list is UNACHIEVABLE. Having a leadership election soon is clearly not the right time. Choosing a new leader by asking your political opponents their opinions is for the fairies, it would never happen. Choosing politicians from other parties to help form a government will also never happen. It would be a betrayal of all those people that voted Conservative. Asking the EU to cure their present inflexible attitude has already happened but fallen on deaf ears so far. There really is no suggestion put forward so far that is viable, possible or remotely likely to happen. Whinging is the easy bit, putting forward sensible alternatives is proving much harder.
Was it a betrayal of all those who voted Conservative when Winston Churchill formed a national coalition government during the war years ? He realized, quite rightly, that the decisions which had to be made needed a consensus which went across party lines - and Britain is facing its biggest crisis since then. Asking for the EU to cure its inflexible attitude is like divorcing someone and then asking them to be flexible ie. by saying I want to keep the best parts of our marriage without the responsibilities.
There is no need for a coalition government, we are not at war and we have a perfectly good well experienced government recently chosen by the electorate. We had bad examples in the 2010 government such as the anti-business, business minister Vince Cable showing he was well out of his depth. This suggestion is simply a guise to contaminate the present government with anti-Brexit, anti-democratic politicians who would be likely to challenge the result of the referendum. There is already healthy debate within the cabinet on Brexit, we do not need those who have little respect for the electorate and the clear parliamentary vote for Brexit.
Brexit has absolutely no mandate for taking us out SH. that has to be said clearly, over and over again. The onus is on you, and other Brexiters, to have a majority clearly on your side - because you are the ones wanting change. At the referendum 51.9% of the 72.2% who actually voted were for Brexit - that equals around 37% of the electorate, not counting all of those denied a vote on the matter. It is that 37% which is imposing its will upon the rest of the country - against the wishes of 2 of the constituent nations of the UK. and against the will of the Capital City. It is this 'minority' which has declared all opposition and questioning as being unpatriotic. This all being as a result of a referendum which was only advisory anyway - ie. had no legal obligation attached to it. It is up to you - as a member of the 'minority' who wanted change to actually justify it, and you have, so far, failed to do so. The biggest mistake was in not making voting compulsory for this one referendum, because we are all affected by it - not just the 37%.
It is nonsense to add those unwilling or unqualified to vote to your list. The referendum was decided by an Act voted on in parliament. The government of the day made it perfectly clear the result would be defining, yes we leave, no we stay. The result was further legitimised by an overwhelming vote in parliament to start the process knowing it was a one way street. Brexiters do not have to convince anybody, the electorate did that. The UK is leaving the EU, almost everybody accepts this as a fact. There may be a few flat earth believers who think that the result can be reserved. There is about as much chance of that as a team like Leicester winning the EPL.
