No, this was when the PM could do no wrong, Labour lost 400 seats, mainly to the Tories. The Labour thrashing was the reason the GE was called.
People far too often try to make the comparison between local and national elections, and the two can be quite different for various reasons. Numbers can look impressive, but there are thousands of local councilors that distort results. There was a total UKIP collapse and where those voters went if anywhere is unknown. The advice the PM received to call a general election was totally wrong, and then she proceeded to make matters worse with her calls for unquestioning support to deal with Brexit. She tried to change tack when she realized that Labour were talking about things more important such as the NHS, but by then the damage had been done. There is talk of her wanting to stay on for another two years. It will be interesting to see if her MPs grant her the chance to do that, and if they do will she be regarded as a lame duck.
Yawn..... back to the same divisive postings..... how did that happen... Oh SH has just returned.... Give it a break can't you? All so boring
POUND LIVE: Pound sinks against the euro as markets expect Brexit 'to be a SHAMBLES' Not the sort of headline you normally see in the Daily Express, but even they are now reporting what others believe. What is more they didn't even try to dispute or put any of their normal spin on it.
As Labour lost nearly 400 seats UKIP's votes did not go to them. The Lib Dems also lost 42 seats so they also lost support. The big winners were the Conservatives with 563 more seats. They now control 28 councils, Labour 9 so it was a thumping victory. The PM did have bad advice on elderly care and restricting pensioner benefits. The population are obviously not ready to have a proper debate on these subjects. The Labour Party got themselves involved in desperate unfunded bribes which some unfortunately actually believed them.
"The population are obviously not ready to have a proper debate on these subjects." Some certainly aren't!
You are being selective SH. The PM based her whole early election strategy on the voters giving her unfettered power to deal with the Brexit talks. That power was not given to her, and because of the electoral system, some that she actually had was taken away from her.
Clearly several times during this debate you have come out with anti British or English rhetoric, slating us at any opportunity during the debate, despite me not waving the British or English word during our discussion, you constantly misconstrue my thoughts and replace them with your own words and thoughts, even though I may be talking about Italy or Spain, which you tend to overlook but quite frequent use a German example of greatness. Well maybe you should read this, from the very mouths of refugees there; "I want to study and work as a doctor. I can offer something to Germany. But they keep changing the language rules," "I will never be treated as a German, or even as a doctor, always as a Muslim. Germans see refugees only as Muslims," "I want to say something, but I'm not allowed. I'm just a '****ty' refugee," Berlin's district of Neukoelln is a notorious symbol of failed integration. "The refugee crisis is going to define my generation in Germany. Unfortunately, I can't say that it will be define us for the better," http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-23/germany-a-culture-in-crisis/7868786 I said all along from the beginning colognehornet, I sensed undertones of discrimination or racism in your views, now i understand why, maybe if i was to believe that link, it's the German's that you hold as a banner that are racist, not the brexiters from the UK!
There is no reason to provide an answer to this rubbish ! I have never quoted anything whatsoever about German 'greatness' as you call it, and never would do. In fact I write very little about Germany because I know it would be of little interest here, and it is not the subject of our discussions. As for racism - point me to one concrete example of it, otherwise think twice before playing the keyboard warrior !!!!!
I agree with this part, but what lost her the result she was looking for was her attempt at much needed reform to elderly care and pensioner benefits. These issues had been avoided by many previous administrations. The Tories resounding victory in the local elections gave the PM's advisors a large slice of over confidence, so they tried to address these problems. It seriously backfired. The problem now is future governments will not tackle these issues unless they find themselves in the middle of a five year term with a large majority. There was no anti-Brexit element to the result, The Lib Dems, that had campaigned on having another referendum were completely ignored, actually losing vote share.
You really have to doubt whether the EU have any interest at all in finding a sensible agreement with the UK. Time to walk away. 'We will NOT move ONE MILLIMETRE!' EU chief's SHOCK outburst as Brexit tensions boil over DAVID Davis’ calls for the European Union to be more flexible during Brexit talks appear to have fallen on deaf ears after one...
Of course the EU are right. 27 countries spent time in formulating a policy that all of them agreed to. Davis goes along to the first meeting and agrees to the policy. The UK does little except play for time, including calling a futile election. Now they try to talk about the details of the policy and Davis realizes that he has nothing to say. So he goes back on what he said at the first meeting. What does he expect the 27 other national governments to do? Go back to their parliaments and say that the UK cannot make up its mind so perhaps we should change the policy. All quite ridiculous.
...and what other options are there ... the EU hold all the cards really.... We brought this all on ourselves
Arriving in Japan, Ms May said: “When we leave the European Union, there's obviously a number of trade deals that the EU has with other countries and we are looking at the possibility of those being able to be brought over into trade deals with the United Kingdom." So while we are still in the EU we have the trade deal with Japan. Then we walk away from it to ask if we can have it back, just call it something different. Japan has been very clear for months if you remember the detailed letter they sent, that trade relations with the UK depended on staying within the single market. They regard the UK as their gateway into the EU and said without any doubts they would change their approach if we did leave.
