Off Topic Political Debate

Well compared with Trump and some of our UK ministers... not really..

But I could not spend as much on make up as him!

However he is a threat to the Establishment in France both right and left so it is not surprising that he is being exposed etc

This is a balanced article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-100-days-scandal-2024-olympics-a7893926.html

 

He is probably a decent guy with a solid grasp on France's problems. Unfortunately these have been known for a very long time and vastly more experienced politicians with well established party structures have all collapsed in the face of the well organised opposition. It must also be extremely worrying for him to see his popularity nosedive even before the difficult process has started.

I wish him well but I don't give him any more than a 30% chance of achieving anything like the level of reform he is trying for. I expect many of his current backers to distance themselves from him when the going gets tough. We will see.

 

Police are carrying out a "significant" investigation into claims that the Conservatives may have broken the law when it used a call centre in Wales to directly contact voters before the General Election.
The Conservative Party has denied the allegations. A spokesman declined further comment, citing the ongoing investigation.
South Wales Police said they are carrying out an investigation of "scale and significance"
Secret footage obtained by Channel 4 News suggested the Tories may have broken data protection and election laws by contracting the Blue Telecoms centre in Neath to directly contact voters in marginal seats.

 

Portugals achievement demonstrates just what is achievable with sensible policies, not with dogma. Whoever was it said that the country's economy was like a family's economy. Silly b**tch. Knew absolutely nothing except the price of a pint of milk.Cause of all our problems.
You clearly live in a different bubble if you think the UK hasn't imposed austerity. You are welcome to your fantasies, but don't expect much agreement or sympathy. It is true the govt. thinks it can blow zillions on an aircraft carrier that doesn't carry aircraft, and doesn't have any serviceable support ships, and can divert huge amounts of transport spending to vanity projects like HS2 but the cuts to real budgets that effect real people are prolonged, severe and cruel. Perhaps you hadn't noticed.

 

I certainly have not noticed any downturn in spending in Hertfordshire. The pubs, clubs and restaurants are full of people enjoying themselves. Of course the bookmakers and on-line gambling companies are doing a roaring trade, especially with people that can least afford it. Budget reductions in increases have helped cut out some waste and made organisations think about getting value for their budget. There is still a large amount of waste in the NHS. I doubt this hot potato will ever be addressed properly.

Thatcher's reforms saved the UK from anarchy, they have survived many governments because it would be illogical to revoke any of them. Let the 'sick man of Europe' tag keep residing on the Continent.

 

Has he overdone the lippy?

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SH, tip your paper off-kilter and give it a little encouraging shake to help pour off most of the bile. In between the hate-filled lines you'll come closer to the truth; i.e. she did not make the comments as you and the Daily Fail allude. It's easy enough to mistakenly retweet/like something... Hell, I've liked some of your comments before.

 

How very true!

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The nasty bit of work just got caught. She liked it and shared it.

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Thanks, SH. I don't any 'social media' (unless this counts), so is that what the heart is, that she liked it? The line I'd heard was it was an accidental retweet. If she has genuinely 'liked' and deliberately retweeted, and, most pertinently, agrees with such despicable horseshite, then she should face stringent action. I wasn't blindly defending Labour, I just have a very low opinion of the integrity of the Daily Hate.

 

November 1990 and Maggie Thatcher was out of the country. As she left the British Embassy in Paris news came through that the Tory MPs had had enough, and were going to vote against her continuing as Prime Minister. On that evening she continued to appear confident, but two days later she was gone.
The present incumbent without explanation extended her holiday abroad, comes back for a week, then is out of the country again. While she has been absent there has been quite a few of her cabinet popping up to say that her view is rather off track. We of course noticed that BoJo was on the radio yesterday telling everyone how she had got it wrong over student numbers, admitting that payments would after all be made to the EU. and that there would probably be a host of transition deals on different parts of business. Certain brexit supporters such as Cash are not happy with the thoughts of still being under the ECJ for some things, while others are trying to make it look far more pragmatic. The real thing that undermines her position of course is that she called an unnecessary election, and with her approach got it horribly wrong.
The government has an impossible task to even pull together the strands of opinion within it's own party, let alone the country at large. Will she stay or go? Will she resign or be pushed? If she does go by either method it would put the talks in Brussels into suspended animation. The longer this discord within the Tory party continues, the worse it will be for the country.

 

Surely has to be the way forward if the union survives until the next election.....

 

I was never a big fan of his in the first place - but have lost what little respect I had for him thanks to the nonsense and lies he has been spouting up here. I simply couldn't believe him on this.

He came up here on a 'campaign trail' to target seats he wants to win in order to defeat the Tories. Unfortunately, it turns out that all those targetted are SNP seats - how on earth he thinks that winning seats from the only credible opposition to the Tories will allow his party to gain more seats than the Tories is anyone's guess.

In spite of the policy promises he has been making - policies actually already implemented by the Scottish Government anyway - he is known to favour what most up here don't - Brexit, not to mention Trident.

The only good thing I can see from his visit has been him putting Gordon Brown in his place by refusing to meet with him yesterday...

 

I cannot say I followed his tour of Scotland, but I doubt that he went to a birthday party in a village hall and pulled the curtains so no one could see him.

 

On what grounds do you think that Corbyn favours keeping Trident ?

 

He says so.

 

He has said nothing of the sort BB. He has said that he will accept the democratic decision of the party on this over his personal feelings - would you prefer that he went on a confrontation course and thus ripped his party apart ? What good would that do anyone ?

 

But reluctantly, BB, because of the PLP.

 

He's the leader of a party that favours the retention of Trident and has publicly said that he would agree with the party wishes. How he handles that situation is down to him, but he is effectively telling the Scots, who he is trying to woo, "Stuff you, if I win it stays."

Not really a sensible attitude, but one that has thankfully given SNP a bloody big stick to wield over Labour. Not that I think they need one right now.

 

The leader of a party cannot determine their policy alone BB - he is not a dictator. Would you have him stand down on the issue causing further rifts in the party and ensuring a Tory government for the next decade.