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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    We undoubtedly do overhype them and Ive said that on many occasion<ok> Long time since any of ours have gone to a top club and made it. Maybe Milner the last
     
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    We'd all like to have Revie type players Eire, committed, loyal and long stayers, but since big business entered into Football that side of football has slowly eroded, even buying and selling players is part of club owners business nowadays. Although we don't like to think it, even managers/coaches treat players as part of a business deal in order to buy the ones they want.

    Then FIFA entered into the equation, creating Euro competitions ruined cup competitions not only in Britain, but in other European countries too. Big prem teams would rather field weaker teams in cup comps and go after the money in Euro comps. I'm sure we all remember when the League and FA Cups were big competitions and clubs fielded their full teams, because back then, League and FA cups were big prizes, and part of our Football religion, as well as the most watched games, after the World Cup around the world.

    Many may not realise it, but because of the Euro comps, and big businesses, British football, and the honour of playing for our countries has declined......:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    great point about Oliveira at Norwich, now he is a striker I'd love us to sign ... he can play, he's a unit and has an eye for goal ... only thing is, he seems a bit temperamental ... his reaction after scoring coming off the bench in their opener was dreadful, thought he was going to take the coach's head off ... replacing Wood is very difficult, and we are seeing that now, specially when you see us linked with Gestede and Hugill ... we ultimately have to trust the leadership, and back whoever they bring in ... however, when you look at the quality of the players they've signed so far, all young and technically sound, can't see how Gestede or Hugill will improve us ... going to be an interesting week


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    We had Oliviera for a dozen or so games in late 2014 into 2015 on loan . Didn't get much of a chance till Bony departed for the African Cup, but I thought he had a great touch and held the ball up well .
     
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  5. milkyboy

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    ...doesn't have a great goal scoring record either but good allrounder... i'd take him and pritchard from norwich.... cant think they'd be too keen to sell either though!
     
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  6. Whitejock

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    Disagree vehemently, certainly in the case of Scotland. I believe it's also the case in the other Celtic countries - we'd crawl over broken glass to play for our country. Yes, I agree, you english have a problem, but don't dare tar us all with the same brush. <grr>
     
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    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on. Same here. Ultimate dream to pull on the green jersey. Makes English fans happier to think no other players have any pride in national jersey like their lot
     
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    If you wait to the end of this, you'll see how much we love our country :D

     
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  9. lifecheshirewhite

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    you know fook all about English pride <doh> why do you think we beat you at virtually every sport going.<whistle>
     
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  10. ellandback

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    There must be some things the Irish are better than the English at????
     
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    8 things we Irish really think of our English neighbors

    1. They’re not as good as us, although they think they’re better.
    For centuries, the English threw their weight around building an empire that would eventually fall. And our green little oasis was an easy target, so for 800 years we suffered oppression, starvation, and death at the hands of the Brits. However, we’re a forgiving people, and have let bygones be bygones. Not that they appreciate it, of course. The English still like to treat us like their lesser cousin, calling us “Paddy” and taking the piss out of us with universally terrible Irish accents. But they shall not smite us. Through it all we have turned the other cheek to our fiercer neighbours and come out all the better for it; everyone loves us, but nearly every other country has a beef with them. So who’s laughing now, ye limey bastards?!


    2. They’re a chilly bunch with tiny, frozen hearts.
    Brrrrr. It can be cold over there in old Engerland. Not because of the weather, but because of the crotchety land dwellers across the pond. The English can have a hostile predisposition, and nowhere is this stronger than in London. Talking on the tube is prohibited, striking up conversation with a fellow homosapien in a bar is frowned upon, and god help you if you’re actually in need, as you’ll more likely be trodden into a puddle than offered a hand. Somewhere along the way, the hearts of the English were deemed redundant, and so were replaced with stoic pacemakers. They all need a good hug.


    3. Northerners aren’t really English.
    Our brethren up north are more similar to us and the Scottish than they are to the English. Boozers, philanderers, and all round good-timers, they cast off their Britishness long ago to join the wilder Celtic clans of Eire and Alba. Similarities include strong linguistic brogues and a penchant for a bit of devilment.


    4. What’s up with the monarchy?
    The monarchy is kinda funny, right? Like, medieval funny. Births, marriages, deaths, affairs, divorces, arrests, and a slew of beheadings thrown in for good measure. Not too sure if the taxpayer is laughing though, as the monarchy will cost the British public £38 million in 2015. Undoubtedly this sum will pay for many regal visits (i.e., holidays), a few weddings (which are sure to “boost public morale” and direct attention away from the fact that people of England are paying for them), and a luxury dog groomer, keeping the corgis in tip top shape.


    5. There are sooooooooo many accents
    Geordies, Scousers, Cockneys, Mancs, Sloane Rangers…trying to attune your ear to the myriad of British accents is, in itself, an exercise in linguistics. The same sentence spoken by each can produce drastically different results, causing confusion and eliciting general expressions of bewilderment and whispers of “What the **** did he say?” Although, to be fair, the same could be said of trying to decipher the ramblings of a drunk culchie down in rural Ireland. I never said we were perfect.


    6. They have dirty, ruthless politicians.
    Ok, so Ireland’s politicians have ranged from the corrupt to the ridiculous, but English politicians are in a league of their own. From Margaret Thatcher’s financial deregulation to Tony Blair’s involvement in the Iraq War to David Cameron’s dismantling of the NHS, Conservative and Labour politicians alike have been spreading discontent across the nation for decades. Ireland’s constant coalition governments make it harder to pin the blame on one person for our sizable amount of problems, but at least they’re all in it together.


    7. Oh, the English are so smug about the Pound.
    “It’s so heavy!”…”It’s worth so much!”…”We hate Europe!”…I kinda have to give this one to them though, Sterling is strong and worth a lot ****ing more than the Euro. Maybe they’ll come out as the new Germany when we all go under, keeping us all afloat on a giant Union Jack-shaped raft.


    8. They’re not really that bad…
    Much is made of the bad blood between Ireland and England, but in reality, the Irish are just as fond of the English as they are of anyone else. There are huge Irish communities in England and have been for years, and we even did a volte-face on our opinion of the Queen when she came to visit in 2011 and wowed everyone by speaking Irish. Irish-English relations are really quite good now, so what the hell do I know here? We actually love you guys, promise.
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  12. ellandback

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    Not sure you'd get into Rob Greens jersey.

    Might be a bit tight on you.
     
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  13. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    No problem. Can get myself a Neville Southall one
     
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  14. milkyboy

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    It's very true, and it makes it all the sadder that those dreams are too often denied by mercenary Englishmen who don't give a hoot about their real shirt or yours but want a chance at international football!
     
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    Funny as feck that
     
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  16. Leedsoflondon

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    32 years since you last beat us at your fav sport, football.

    What do you know about english pride? Last week you were a welsh kiwi
     
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  18. lifecheshirewhite

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    Never been Welsh,you on the other hand have been an English paddy.<whistle> My English pride would never let me support an Irish team ;)
     
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  19. bucks_is_leeds

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    I don't think we are trying to replace him. Change of system goals coming from behind the front man, I don't think we will see another striker hit 20 but I do expect the likes of Saiz to hit double figures. All change, let's hope it's for the better
     
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    Sam is the jewel in the crown.
     
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