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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

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  2. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    For me the damage has been done, I don't get why any club would wait to sign a player once the season starts when it could have been done in June or July and they could of had pre-season to bed in and get to know their team mates etc.

    Might save a bit of cash by waiting but that cash saved could and has cost points in the league which could be the diffeeence between winning it or coming 2nd.

    Spurs never learn and at some point this will bite us on the arse big time.
     
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    Talks between Everton and Swansea have reportedly broken down, with the Toffees backtracking on an offer of £40+5 in bonuses to just £40m. "Just".

    The clubs are apparently less than £5m apart from eachother in terms of having a deal, which shows that Levy isn't the only one to quibble over relative loose change.

    Swansea are clearly in a strong negotiating position though. Koeman has very much put most if not all of his eggs in one Icelandic basket, and has made it clear that he wants Barkley gone by the end of the summer. Siggy meanwhile hasn't put in a transfer request and, despite 'not being in the right state of mind' for the past month, hasn't gone full Van Dick in his bid to leave Wales.

    If this one doesn't go through, does anyone think they'll just hang on to Barkley for another season?
     
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    My personal opinion why don't Swansea do a deal with Everton barkley to Swansea and siggy to Everton .I don't rate barkley so a straight swap should do the job.if it were spurs looking to sign one of them to be honest I would rather have siggy
     
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    Barkley's worth becomes next to nothing if he's still at Everton come September. Will their new investor and Koeman want to have a player who doesn't want to be there and who is a waste of £25m hanging around?

    Arsenal may bet £50m on Sanchez getting them back in the CL if they keep him next season, we shall see but Barkley staying at Everton isn't going to improve Everton's lot at all.

    Everton will sell to someone whether they sign Gylfi or not. The potential buyers are just waiting for the price to drop as Everton realise that Koeman made one enormous **** up when he said Barkley would be sold. No matter how big a whopper you tell, never say a player's got to go. It halves what people will pay.
     
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    Simplest answer is: Barkley doesn't want to go to Swansea, which is perfectly understandable for a person who thinks he is the 21st century Gazza.
     
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    Some would rather have the 21st century Gazza back
    at Spurs than having Barkley signed.
     
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    When barkley first came on the scene he looked really good but a few years on he is nothing special and I would be disappointed if we signed him now overrated in my opinion.siggy I would have back any day
     
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    We've put together the best eleven in England for 150m and you think we never learn!
    Everyone else signs dross in July at inflated prices.
     
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    Best 11? I disagree. Even if it was, you need more than 11 to win a title.
     
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    Yes, that's true but it seems to me that people pay well over the odds to get the deals done early. We might easily have paid 50m more for the same players if we had signed them all in July. Which means we wouldn't have been able to afford Son, Wanyama, Alderweireld and Dele Alli or some other similar combination.

    The only sensible transfer strategy is to sign players you rate highly for the price you think they are worth. If you can do that in July all well and good.
     
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    Every other club has managed to get their targets though.

    I know I sound like a broken record but it's 9th August and we are days away from the season starting and we haven't even signed 1 player.

    Hope I'm wrong and could well be but I think it's the wrong tactic and will cost us massively.
     
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    Most of our cheap deals have one caveat or another one them: Trippier cost £3.5m due to his release clause, while Wimmer cost £4.3m but we were trying to sign him the previous January. After that it's wait until August.
     
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    Poch has said we're going to be signing 3 or 4 players before the transfer window closes.

    https://talksport.com/football/we-w...nager-mauricio-pochettino-tells-talksport?amp

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    So why wait until the end of the window. Don't we ever learn.

    By the time the new signings settle in and get up to speed with training etc, we will be in Oct/Nov maybe even longer if they come from another league. By then we could be too far behind to catch up with our rivals.
     
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    I think Pochettino explained it well. While the big money clubs are splashing their cash there is probably a 30% premium on everyone, in case one of the big money clubs comes in. Once they have filled their boots everything calms down. So we get four for the price of three if we wait. We don't have the cash to do anything else and I don't really see much evidence that it damages our performance.
     
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    I don't disagree with you, and posted something similar on the previous page.
    But as frustrating as it is, it's happened now. At least Poch has confirmed there'll be 3 or 4 new faces to help the squad.
    Down to levy now not to **** it up!
     
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    Reassuring words as Poch isn't the type to say something that could come back to dramatically bite him in the Netherlands.

    What concerns me greatly is that he is under the mistaken impression that the big 5 have 'spent all of their money'. This is demonstrably false. Liverpool haven't been particularly busy at all and definitely have a large pot of £50-60m with a label tied to it reading 'Free Willy' (if you get the pun, you get a like). Maureen only the other day stated clearly that they would be straight in for Bale should he become available...which would require at least £80m. Fraudiola has also expressed his intent to further strengthen the defence and most Goons firmly believe that they have at least another £50m in the kitty.

    The only thing we've done better than most is something we've got rather good at and that is shifting deadwood well in advance of the season starting. Sissoko is a skidmark that will take an Adebayor-sized brush to shift, but apart from him everyone Poch actively wanted gone is gone. Arsenal and United by contrast have top-heavy, bloated squads. City have done a decent job. Pool's squad is still littered with dross that should be nowhere near a club with title aspirations. And Chelsea's definition of a clearout seems to be selling every promising youngster on their books.
     
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    Most club targets fall into the following tiers :

    1. Out of your reach on both transfer and wage fees

    2. Ok on transfer/wage fees, but a rival club with greater
    financial power could offer much higher wages

    3. Ok on transfer/wage fees, and under the radar of /
    no interest to rival clubs


    Spurs at the moment operate in 2/3.
    The complication is the Levy factor, as we have no real
    empirical data as to how many prospects he has lost or
    transfer/wage fees he has saved by his actions.
     
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    It could equally be said that we start the season as we finished the last one (and that was ok) so we are not settling anyone in at the start and when signings do arrive they will hopefully not be required for a few weeks whilst they do 'settle' in and get Poch fit, the only fly in that ointment being the loss of Trippier for Sundays match, but in all honesty even if another RB arrived Poch would still play either Dier on the right of a 4 or Sissoko if we play 3 CB.
     
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