Firstly, we tried 4-4-2 (diamond) last season as well, it didn't have mixed results, it had just **** results. Name me 2 strikers in the squad good enough to start, and 2 out and out wingers in the squad good enough to start? The formation is not the problem, we could play ay formation and we'd be ****e because we don't have the key ingredients - personnel-wise or style-of-play-wise. As TMITLBC says, Norwich did lose 7-1 and sacked their manager! THEN they improved. Now I'm not suggesting we sack Sven but I don't see how anyone can feel encouraged from what we've seen so far. He COULD turn it around, ANYTHING is possible, but apart from that argument, please explain to me why things will turn around? These players we have brought in are mostly defensive and in the most part fine, I'm not really worried too much about that area (though we have a problem centre back position now). But going forward we are hopeless, we do not have the players nor the manager with the tactical nouse to score goals. Come on, don't just say 'give it time', pleae explain to me, where is this great football going to sprout from?
"Didn't have patience to read whole post, frankly I'm still laughing from all pre season speculation of you lot walking this league and you've so far only beaten a mediocre Coventry side and lost two valuable home games!! This is a marathon and not a sprint but don't get why your giving everyone a headstart! Looked down at the saints are two up and a serious threat....I think we just prooved a team of tightly knit skilled group is so far outgunning your lot who are still learning each others names! As for Sven...I'd be demotivated by his voice!! At the end of the season you may be sitting pretty but boy are you lot having a hard time atm!" I would choose to wording this differently, but your sentiments are about right. I don't understand the Sven reference though.
So should the fact that Leicester have spent loadsamoney and we've spent **** all, but are still at the same level. I imagine that's the rationale for all the hatred, and let's be fair, with the way some of your supporters have been pre-season with their blase attitude towards money and footballing chivalry, Leicester City fans are henceforth fair game. It's fun to be hated though, enjoy it.
Footballing chivalry? Who's your Chairman again?! And we may be fair game to some clubs...but you're the mighty Leeds are therefore belong in the Prem, so you're always saying. Therefore, see my comment above.
Not really. We think Bates is as unchivalrous and detestable as anyone else... hence why the huge majority of our fans want him out of the club. We wouldn't sit by again and watch our club consumed by greed, throwing its character down the drain. There's no hypocrisy about it. And yes, we do have a divine right to be in the Premier League. Our fanbase dictates that. If you can't handle that fact, I guess you can just be ticked off as another of the small-club fans who hates Leeds because of envy and thinks our demise has been hilarious. 'your not famuse anymoar'
Its early days but cant keep dropping silly home points! think we need to question sven's tactics,its no good making 20 passes when the killer pass is ****ing useless why can we not pass the ball forwards its always sidewards or backwards, why are our players not running into space to help team mates we need 4-4-2 at home we need to get another striker from somewere very soon, even if we had Howard on the bench he would have caused more problems than what we had on show tonight! Just wished Dyer could deliver the final ball why oh why are we so ****ing useless
Your 'fanbase' You mean teh 20000 fans you had to watch you play a local rival last night? Yeah, must be amazing. We managed the same against Bristol, do we now have a divine right to be in the PL? No. **** off.
"And yes, we do have a divine right to be in the Premier League. Our fanbase dictates that. If you can't handle that fact, I guess you can just be ticked off as another of the small-club fans who hates Leeds because of envy and thinks our demise has been hilarious. 'your not famuse anymoar'" That is the most conceited, pathetic and hilarious sentence I have ever read! You really are a t*** aren't you?
Nah I mean the 1 million nationwide who support the Whites and the millions more abroad. If you want to snidely talk about attendances, I suggest you factor in the fact that thousands are boycotting games due to the insane pricing structure and due to Ken Bates' chairmanship. I'd have been one of them if I hadn't got my season ticket this year before realizing we were going to utterly **** up the summer's transfer ambitions. So yeah, that's why we have a divine right to be at the top. I'm not arguing this point any further as it's been done to death on our board and this is a legitimate thread for Leicester fans to feel depressed about tonight's result and your underperforming Galactico$ team.
Well, our fans deserve the Prem as well, but if Wigan are better than the both of us at playing football then I guess that's just life.
My point is that nobody has a divine right to be in the Premier League. You have to earn it. Also, for the record. Leeds has a population of 1m so I would expect them to have a fair amount of fans.
With all due respect, you are not supporting the club if you aren't at games, simple as that. Not saying they all aren't fans but I'm sure quite a lot aren't real fans. Like our new found fanbase in Thailand for example, or some of my family and friends. I do sympathise with your ticket price issues though, ours aren't great either.
There are a lot (thousands, I'd have thought) who used to be season ticket holders and regular awaygoers who have boycotted since Bates started raping the club. It's not just part-timers looking for an excuse why they don't go any more. These people are acting in the club's best interests by withdrawing financial support for Bates' stupid selfish schemes. If they have the club's best interests at heart in these self-sacrificing actions, in my opinion they are as true a supporter as any other Leeds fan. Like I say, I'd be alongside them if I hadn't been foolishly optimistic and bought myself a season ticket. I love watching my team, but I hate watching them squirm under mismanagement even more. Valid point, though Leeds' population is more like 750,000 and many of them are students, sport-haters, rugby fans and immigrants from elsewhere in the UK, so I actually think we've done very well to get the fanbase we have. I agree that Leicester are probably a Premiership-sized club. Certainly more so than Wigan and the likes, and by no means does a divine right to be up there supercede their valid footballing reason for spending so long in the top flight.
**** off, I live in Inverness, how am I supposed to get to ER every week? And what about our fans in Norway? If you look at the locations of the fans on our board I think you'll find we don't all live in the local area like you lot. And the difference between our seasons so far, about from how much you spent in the summer and the fact we've had key players out through injury, is that you narrowly beat relegation fodder Coventry before losing at home to Reading and rock bottom Bristol City, we on the other hand lost away to top of the league Southampton, were robbed of a result against 'Boro by the referee and then thrashed Hull 4-1, so I'd say we have more reason to be positive.
Don't be ridiculous, plenty of Leicester fans are in the same boat. You really are typical of your lot, you think you're the only bunch who have some fans who don't live locally? You have a lot of fans no doubt but how are you supporting the club exactly, if you're not there at the ground? You miss my point, I'm not accusing you of not being a real fan, but you can't just say we have a load of fans that don't live local and that's why we deserve to be in the Premiership. Your fanbase is judged on attendances, and in any case, it has no direct bearing on league position.
Buying shirts? Memberships? Going to as many games as I possibly can, as few and far between as those may be?
Buying shirts? When you are at games you are supporting them, when you're not, you're not. Get my drift now? Your mate said your '1 million fans worldwide and millions more abroad' are the reason you deserve to be in the Premiership. Now explain to me if you have millions of real fans why do you not fill your stadium every single week? Answer: Because you don't have that many real fans. Every club at our level has some fake fans and it's no different for you.
"Firstly, we tried 4-4-2 (diamond) last season as well, it didn't have mixed results, it had just **** results. Name me 2 strikers in the squad good enough to start, and 2 out and out wingers in the squad good enough to start? The formation is not the problem, we could play ay formation and we'd be ****e because we don't have the key ingredients - personnel-wise or style-of-play-wise. As TMITLBC says, Norwich did lose 7-1 and sacked their manager! THEN they improved. Now I'm not suggesting we sack Sven but I don't see how anyone can feel encouraged from what we've seen so far. He COULD turn it around, ANYTHING is possible, but apart from that argument, please explain to me why things will turn around? These players we have brought in are mostly defensive and in the most part fine, I'm not really worried too much about that area (though we have a problem centre back position now). But going forward we are hopeless, we do not have the players nor the manager with the tactical nouse to score goals. Come on, don't just say 'give it time', pleae explain to me, where is this great football going to sprout from?" I missed this earlier Emilio, it was swamped by all the WUMs. I think a 4-3-3 when we have only one striker will invariably shift to a a 4-5-1, which leaves the midfield too congested and, as you said with too much emphasis on defensive play. I am a fan of the diamond system actually, but perhaps we didn't have the right personnel last season. I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with the core of the team of last year, but it's the same old problem about fitting Gallagher in. You might be right, we may need a winger too, but once the new striker arrives, we should try the diamond formation again with Gallagher behind the strikers and Wellens in front of the defence. King and Danns/Fernandez in the middle. It's really a moot point until we sign a striker though, which we desperately need to do, even if it's a loan. I take your point about the attacking full backs though, and the midfield is very defence-minded. I worried about this during he summer to be honest. Sven needs to encourage Peltier and Konchesky to get forward. And regarding the Norwich situation, I think the sacking of Gunn was reactionary, and I'm sure he would have turned things around himself. I think too many of our fans are being reactionary too. We don't want the four-managers-in-one-season mess which sent us down in 2008. I think Mills will come good. He has too for that price. I think his price tag and our postion as favourites has been too much for him. He's another who will settle in time. We just need to be patient.
For me, the problem is Sven - I said this last season and he's done nothing to change my opinion. He's pissed about in the transfer market, buying way too many central midfielders when what we are desperate for are quality wingers and maybe a striker (2 if he persists in playing 4-3-3). His motivational skills are debatable. His tactical nounce is also hugely questionable. Any team is only as good as the teamwork they display, and we seem to be showing precious little of it.
