Unlike France the UK has created millions of jobs in the last few years. This is possible because the UK does not suffer from the anti business employment rules prevalent in France, Macron will attempt to change these, good luck with that!!. I see his popularity is sliding rapidly already. I'm sure the EU will purposely cause the UK as much inconvenience as possible as the negotiations become more difficult. I now expect no agreement, the UK cannot accept ECJ ruling in the UK after Brexit.
I am afraid that as usual you have failed to grasp the nettle and just try to deflect the real issues for the UK. Give us some solid facts and maybe we can debate them, but wishful thinking is not required at this stage. We have all seen how the government is shattering over the problems it has created for itself. The country is looking like a canoe without a paddle at present.
You are obviously pleased with the difficulties the UK government is currently facing but it will not result in any outcome other than Brexit. Your reports on some insignificant job losses are just that, insignificant in the overall scheme of things. The doom sayers, such as yourself, have consistently been proved wrong, I expect that to continue. The solid facts include the UK's ability to use its flexibility and job creation. Enjoy France's superior growth rate for now, it is such a rarity. Unfortunately France has twice the unemployment rate of the UK and higher public debt, it needs all the help we can give.
Absolutely agree, and if the Italians get their way they will soon be following behind us, which will see the end to this monstrosity!
Unlike the UK, France has consistently failed to meet the EU's maximum 3% debt level of public debt. it has suffered for years with low growth and high unemployment. All recent French governments have had backbones made of jelly when faced with opposition to the urgent reforms required. We will soon see if Macron joins the long list of defeated French leaders. In contrast the UK has enjoyed many years of sustained growth, high employment and debt levels well within the EU's guidelines. No wonder they did not want the UK to leave the EU.
If you lived in France I might take some notice of what you say about the country, but as you failed to make a go of living here I doubt that you are in touch these days of how the population are currently feeling or how the government are doing. What is being laid bare for the whole world to see, and even you admit to it, is that the UK is currently suffering "difficulties". Now if you consider that the population refused to give the government what it was asking for, the ministers are fighting like rats in a sack to see who can replace the person who got them into this "difficulty", they have to buy votes from a party that no one on the mainland could vote for, why should I say that things will be fine when I and no one else seems to have a clue what it is that the UK are trying to negotiate. A long period of transition now seems to be gaining momentum, so it will be years before any meaningful trade deals will be done. Japan has just done one with the EU which will have taken eight years before it comes into full effect. As soon as it was announced the largest bank said it would leave the UK and relocate in Amsterdam. Sad really that the country was taken down such an unproven route which is looking everyday more and more like a cul-de-sac.
Why just focus on France, as I've already said what about Italy? What is it £430 billion of debt, threatening to leave the EuroZone, the people wanting a referendum, which could finally see the collapse of the EU. Countries being threatened about not taking enough migrants and blatantly sticking two fingers up in response. So the EU threatened fines, you really couldn't make this all up. The only thing holding this altogether is that bitch in Gemany, but it's day will come. As for the Conservatives buying power, it's no different to what any other party would have done to gain power, Labour included, after all didn't Corbyn openly welcome the killers from the IRA. This whole monstrosity is eventually going to collapse, stop believing what the British Media feed you, all remoaners ever do is look for the negatives, well as was simply said, start being patriotic, yes i'm a nationalist thru and thru and if you don't like it, sod off to the land of milk and honey, I'm sure the Germans will welcome you with open arms. All the EU want is one state, one identity, one culture, thank god i protected the rights of future generations at the ballot box. That very ballot box where the less democratic people want to demonise our vote, well tell yer what buddy, you are stuck with it. There is nigh on 70 million people in the UK, if anyone dosen't want to do business with that amount of people (which would seem a absolute crazy demented idea) then we will do our business elsewhere. Every time ISIS attack they swing the pendulum the anti EU way, and France is having a rest bite at the moment, but unless they deal with that Begium border which is problem under their open border rules, then it could eventually over the next decade become their own death bell.
I suspect that your avatar gives you a slightly different viewpoint to many brb. The focus on France comes about because someone always tries to change the subject to that country rather than discuss the points made to him. My reading is far wider than the UK press. I gave up on them years ago. Owners living in tax havens who are more interested in safeguarding their wealth than telling the truth are not good for the country. I choose to live here, not Germany thank you. Maybe you would like to stop people living in a country of their choice, I don't know. Maybe you believe that countries should not work together for the common good. That is not my viewpoint.
Leaving France turned out to be the best decision I have ever made because it led to creating a business large enough to positively affect generations of my family. You don't need to live in France to know it has suffered from low growth, high unemployment and racial unrest for many years. You really should be concerned by the failings of your adopted country. There are many thousands of expats desperate to leave but are stuck because of the devaluation of their properties. I know of some that have been trying to sell their house in excess of seven years despite halving the asking price. These problems are common to many other EU countries. The undemocratic EU officials are desperate to keep the 'project' from the inevitable failure in its present form. Misery in Italy and Greece will not reduce until they both leave. A successful Brexit is obviously not in the interest of the eurocrats, they will do everything to try to damage the UK. Trade agreements with the EU take much longer because of the ridicules situation whereby a single member country can scupper any deal for selfish reasons. The UK can agree trade deals so much quicker. The city of London has made it clear that business and job losses will be minimal as far as Brexit is concerned. Hammond reaffirmed the government position that the UK will leave the EU in two years. The government has also confirmed free movement will end within this timeframe.
I have no problem in being part of Europe, I just have no desire to be governed by it in any way shape or form. I wish every country to proudly keep and display it's own national identity, I see the EU flag no different to that of a Swastiki, if i go to Italy, France, Germany or any other country then as a guest, I expect to support myself and respect it's culture and language. If i were to live in any of those countries, I would expect to adapt my behaviour according to the custom and learn the language. I do not expect one EU body or any other country to dictate the laws or policies (within freedom of expression and human rights) of another country, I am nationalist, I believe in true individual identity, I do not wish to see a United States of Europe. I believe the EU will erode everything i believe in, I have no problem with immigration within justified reasons, sanctuary or bringing something of benefit to our/or another country, not visa versa. If anyone does not believe in being patriotic, then we have an open door policy to leave. I believe whether win,lose or draw, a democratic vote is a vote set in stone. All politicians lie, they always have done and always will do, if you feel your vote was mislead, then you should have done better research, trust no one other than your own judgement and be consistent. There were many youngsters who did not get off their arses to vote, there is a life lesson, that will live with them for life, but never will there be a second vote, simply because it would cause civil unrest and undermine democracy. Would I be prepared to get arrested to protect my democratic right, damn sure i would.
The focus on France is because you live there whilst attacking the UK. I understand the concerns and problems faced by expats but they must face the consequences of their decisions. Your comments would be taken more seriously if you pulled your head out of the sand when discussing France's well documented economic and social failings. Perhaps you need to ignore these problems so you can convince yourself that you have not made a massive mistake locating to France? Many do realise it when it is too late and financially impossible to return to the UK.
To add to my last post before this, I did not realise he lived in France, so i will enhance my thoughts further, I live here, like nigh on 70 million other people, if people have chosen to reallocate, then in my honest opinion, they have no bearing on my vote, and it certainly infuriates me even more if they choose to be negative or undermine the democratic vote of this country, regardless of who did and said what on the political stage. They chose to be an ex-pat, I chose to stay and work for my country.
Why should I be worried about the failings of France when you seem to be incapable of seeing that the UK is heading on a slow but downward spiral. As a friend from Italy told me recently the mood is on the up unless you live in the south which has always been a problem, but he could see that the UK is going in the opposite direction. I hardly need to attack the UK, and would rather see it become a responsible member of the world community, but just look around and if you mention people like BoJo to someone from countries he has been to and you will not hear positives.
and a close Italian friend of mine said they wanted a referendum and they wanted out, moods work both ways.
The Maison de maitre in Gaillac Tarn we sold to an English couple 15 years ago has been up for sale since the wife died several years ago. There has been considerable investment and improvements made to this substantial property. Having been unable to attract a buyer the husband has reduced the price several times, it is now valued not much more than we sold it for. The chap would desperately like to return to the UK to be with his children and grandchildren but cannot leave the property due the workload to keep the house presentable. It is a miserable existence, his dream has turned into a nightmare.
You don't need to attack the UK but you still do. Quoting one person's opinion is utterly meaningless. The Eu has conveniently ignored its own banking rules to allow Italy to bail out two regional banks, there are many more in deep financial trouble. This has angered the Germans, there is unlikely to be any progress on the proposed banking and fiscal integration. A short term problem has been fixed only by raising long term uncertainties.
brb. I lived and worked in the UK until I retired. During that time I employed very many people giving them and their families a decent standard of living. None of the zero hours contracts, no fines if they didn't turn up for work, just an opportunity for them to live a decent life without having to go to the state to make up their wages. The choice I made as to where I should live was mine and my wife's, and I was given that right under the UK and EU law. On a personal level therefore I think I am entitled to have a say when my national government wishes to take those rights away from me. I also have children and grandchildren still living in the UK and know what life is like for them. My youngest daughter works for the NHS and is gradually being ground down by the extra unpaid hours she is working to make up for the EU staff that are leaving. She is close to calling it a day, but as she is well qualified could bring those degrees to anywhere in the EU and have them recognized. She is seriously considering it. My other daughter in the UK has just been made redundent. Her company was bought out by an American company, investment?, and now they have decided that because of Brexit they are moving to Spain. Because of mine and my children's welfare, I feel quite entitled to have a say on what I see happening that will have some effect on how we all live. One day you might wish to live elsewhere, and I am sure you would angry if you were told that you would not be able to without jumping through very expensive hoops.
Sorry but far too many were ripped off by owners who knew that some English buyers were a soft touch 15 years ago. House prices are not a means of making money in France, and so many young couples are actually able to afford to buy and live in them. Many houses have been brought back to life from falling down status, which may have cost money, but it has been done because people would rather live here and consider it worth the cost. I sold my house in the UK 10 years ago, and I see it has been resold this year. At the price it was sold at the people who bought it from me lost money. So not all is well over there either.
All I've read from you so far, without any disrespect is negativity towards the UK. Yet so many people want to come here, odd that eh? I've given my own personal reasons also at #3570, so far and up until now you chose to overlook that, in favour of more negativity. Sorry but in the UK we are used to people demonising the brexit vote, but as time goes on those same people have quietened down as the doom and gloom did not hit to the levels you seem to be predicting in your new nest over in France. But we are British through and through here my friend, so you keep looking in from the outside, best place for your negativity.
Strange that, i've sold two properties recently, both properties sold well in excess post brexit of there original buying price and both made substantial profits. Funny how you are seeing things through your eyes across the channel but again more negativity on your part.
