Perry Groves has written an article in The Express opining that Harry Kane and Dele Alli could leave Spurs next summer. I guess that anything is possible but I'd bet my own money that's not going to to happen. If it did happen, Spurs are due something called a transfer fee to compensate for our loss. Probably the order of £350m or more? Whereas if Sanchez, Özil, Wilshire, Cazorla, The Ox and Joel Campbell leave next summer, all that will be left will be the notion of the ideal situation brought about by allowing your best players to run their contracts down. When a couple of hundred million pounds of footballers leave his club for nothing, I wonder if Stan will use the elephant gun or something with a smaller calibre?
AFC is feeling the effect of finishing outside the CL. If we finish outside the CL, our best players may well demand moves to CL clubs. Levy knows the score.
If we finish next season trophyless and/or out of the top 4 (depending on the players' priorities), I can see Alli (plus others) leaving.
I think not. If I was a stadium sponsor then I'd not be accepting seeing the family jewellery flogged off just as I was investing £400m into a football club. There's bound to be stipulations on keeping Mauricio Pochettino and the top stars which is why we've been so committed to getting them on long contracts so that we can navigate the move into the new stadium in a really strong position. I think that after that first season in the new stadium, the gloves are off but that we'll maintain our stance that "He's not for sale at any price" for our stars next summer and try to upgrade a number of contracts this season to make our position even stronger.
Really think you are wrong with that one Brian, I can't see any club letting a sponsor dictate who they sold, bought or had managing them. Things happen In football, players down tools, managers move on for various reasons. I understand your thinking but just can't see a club agreeing to it.
Agreed. If we have a disappointing season and Alli indicates that he wants to leave, I cannot see Levy resisting a Neymar-esque fee for the player - given that most of that fee can then be ploughed back into paying off the stadium and thus making us less dependent on the whims of a sponsor. I firmly believe that Walker leaving has added an urgency to the coming season that we really didn't need. My gut feeling is top 4 plus a domestic trophy will be needed to keep the likes of Alli, Toby, Dier and Eriksen happy. And I struggle to see that happening at Wembley.
I can see what Brian meant, we have a sponsorship deal that is dependant on us not missing CL two seasons on the trot but how we do that is left to the club to make sure of. Players, managers etc are the clubs responsibility to ensure we meet the two season element of the contract.
Do you really?! That sounds mental if true and goes a great way to explain Maureen's end of season paranoia about the EL. I'm also surprised that any sponsor could possibly think that United's global revenue would be massively impacted by not being in the CL. You're one of the few clubs in the world that is so big, you'd need 5+ years out of it before the markets even began to take notice.
Yep, we could lose £23m if we miss CL for two seasons running. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...start-of-Adidas-deal-or-face-23m-penalty.html
I mean come on....that's literally pocket money to you lot. Did Adidas even look at your annual profit margins before negotiating that figure? Times it by 5 and it starts to make sense. Anyways my dear friend this conversation has been far too civil for my liking.
My my, we are full of doom and gloom today...You need to lighten up and be as optimistic as me Nasri will save us
The England national team is selected on the basis of sponsorships, shirt sales, etc. We choose captains based upon marketability of players who have never captained their club sides. Gary Lineker wasn't England captain because of his leadership skills. Beckham was given caps years after he was a viable member of the squad. Rooney was played in deep midfield, where he'd never played a game in his career. Why? To suggest that sponsors don't involve themselves in this stuff is a bit naïve when you're talking about £400m. If they want Dele to stay, then he stays. Arsenal and Wenger had to agree to staying together for 5 years after The Emirates was built. The banks demanded it as a condition for the loans. It's pretty common practice to employ a golden handcuffs agreement in such cases. Money talks in the end and big business will have its way. There's no chance that Spurs go into that new stadium having sold their best players given that we've got 25,000 extra seats to sell. No chance.
Unless of course the majority sponsor has interests in other clubs; one of the dangers of using Nike as a shirt sponsor that - if your premise is true - quite frankly scares me. Let's say Nike sponsor the stadium too (numerous rumours suggest this could happen). We endure a predictably tough season at Wembley, end it in 5th place and with no trophies and Alli starts itching for the exit. Barcelona, coincidentally also manufactured and sponsored by Nike, move in with an eye-watering bid. What do our benevolent sponsors do? They sit down with a very small calculator and work out that moving the Dele Alli asset to their Catalonia interest looks very healthy to their shareholders.
That is slightly different from suggesting you would allow sponsors dictate who your manager and players are. The whole bit about England captains may be right but has no relation to club football. Do you really think Levy would keep Poch if things went tits up just because the sponsors wanted him to? If one of your star players downed tools because Barca/Madrid came calling would you expect him to be kept in the first team because the sponsors had it in their contract? Not going to happen mate, sponsors may make performance related demands but no club is going to dictate how it's run.
If you sup with the devil, better bring a long spoon. We've borrowed an extraordinary amount of money for a club of our size. If we sign a sponsorship agreement for nearly half a billion pounds then those sponsors will be asking for the sun and the moon with the stars to follow. We don't have to say "Yes" and maybe a nice Hong Kong Chinese insurance company will give and ask for less but if we get into bed with Nike, we've agreed to be ****ed. The only issue is how often and for how long.
I like the look of the lad in terms of potential but he barely got a look-in last season due to Aguero and Jesus. For me, even in this market, £25m is way too much for a guy who warmed the bench for most of the season. As for the buy-back option, City are just trying to become the Real Madrid of the Prem. Absolute farce. It's just a show of power for a big club. I don't even think it's my "Spurs head" in this instance mate. Like I said to PNP I think the lad looks good and has potential but to play the equivalent of just 6 full games last season and then command a £25m fee is just mad in my eyes. The only way it'd somewhat make sense is if that £25m is based heavily on performance related add-ons and the initial fee is something like £10m. Another way I'd look at it is when you think that some of us tinkered with the idea of wanting Nachos to be included in the Walker deal, had Spurs theoretically accepted a £25m offer plus him for Kyle, I'd have been pretty pissed as for me that wouldn't have represented good value for Spurs for what is the best full back in the Premier League. I would've wanted something like £35m-£40m + Nachos for it to have been good business.
Make of this what you will... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Pochettino-Tottenham-s-difficult-summer.html I personally struggle to believe that Levy would've sanctioned £60m for a back-up striker. But the rest of the article rings very, very true. Of our current starting XI, the following outfield players have no real competition for their place in the side (assuming a 3-4-2-1 formation): Jan Toby Trippier Wanyama Kane Finding competition is a catch-22 as players who don't care about picking up a huge salary want to play regularly, whilst players who care more about their salary than game time are never going to be on our radar anyway as we can't afford them and Poch doesn't like them. We are very much caught between a rock and a hard place.
