1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

The allams strategy/gift/finances

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by hullborn, Jul 30, 2017.

  1. yorkys

    yorkys Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2017
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    57
    Not hoping I strongly think they will be gone I no evidence to reveal to show this

    We will see
     
    #41
  2. Hutch-tiger69

    Hutch-tiger69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2015
    Messages:
    1,412
    Likes Received:
    626
    I tend to like alot of what you post sterling, agree with most of it too, ive got to disagree abit with the second paragraph though, i think ehab would lie in interviews and has done, i think the "weve done groundwork and identified target" interview straight after marco silva had given publicity to the fact preparation was a shambles, was a lie, no way has ehab gone out and identified anybody, he gave that interview to save face, il admit to reading inbetween the lines, but the chain of events leading up to where were currently at including the drawn out saga of appointing a head of recruitment and the further appointment of a head scout tells me weve stumbled through this pre season unprepared, those two appointments should of been made alot sooner than they were, i also dont get if we identified targets so long ago and identifying them should of included research into if they fit within our budget, why were still without a leftback in the squad and are sparse in other areas, weve seen players that would of been within our budget join argubally smaller clubs than us. I honestly think ehabs treating city with an unprofessional lack of effort, while recouping what he can, id like to be more positive but each decsion along the way just seems like a bumbling clueless effort, fingers crossed though your postivity is right
     
    #42
  3. Leon T Trout AFC

    Leon T Trout AFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2013
    Messages:
    7,028
    Likes Received:
    4,592
    What makes you 'strongly think' this then?
     
    #43
  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,314
    Likes Received:
    55,844
    You strongly think but have nothing to base it on. Mebbe it's how you posted quite a few posts but it came across very ITK.
     
    #44
  5. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages:
    17,305
    Likes Received:
    15,177
    Don't forget Hull City's footballing philosophy Hutch...

    And you're being far too kind.... in a nutshell 'he's a ****'...
     
    #45
    Hutch-tiger69 likes this.
  6. yorkys

    yorkys Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2017
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    57
    Things that are happening around the club
    And the fact we had buyers lined up with deals agreed to buy us had we stayed up
    We will see
     
    #46
  7. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2015
    Messages:
    17,305
    Likes Received:
    15,177
    Phil Taylor wins WMP Darts..

    allam.png
     
    #47
    FER ARK, Doug, Idi Amin and 3 others like this.
  8. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,314
    Likes Received:
    55,844
    Stop been enigmatic mate it looks daft.
     
    #48
    balkan tiger likes this.
  9. Kevin Francis

    Kevin Francis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2012
    Messages:
    1,003
    Likes Received:
    1,147
    I would say this is the most likely case scenario
     
    #49
    ImperialTiger likes this.
  10. yorkys

    yorkys Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2017
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    57
    Never ever been called enigmatic
     
    #50

  11. yorkys

    yorkys Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2017
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    57
    It's been well reported there were 3 deals agreed to buy us
    One fell by the wayside when he got arrested the other 2 were still agreed
    It wouldn't surprise me if at least one or both have been renegotiated at different terms now
    Probably why we're not spending a fortune on players and why the Allams are taking loans out on future tv monies
    That's my take
    We will see
     
    #51
  12. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    19,740
    Likes Received:
    9,072
    I really can't see it.
    I think they're just protecting the 3 years parachute payments.
     
    #52
  13. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2012
    Messages:
    25,725
    Likes Received:
    10,630
    For what it's worth, I think the Allams are rolling the dice. They want out with a decent return.
    Hoping that, by spending as little as they can on recruitment, selling our best/most experienced players and icing back the parachute payments , such a strategy will not lead to relegation. In their eyes, if this works for the next two seasons, they may well recoup all of the debt they have in the club, yet still give them the "interest return" on their investment.
    A fluky promotion would obviously sweeten the pot, and give them an even longer time-frame to boost their profits.
    Two seasons from now, using this strategy, they may well be ahead of the game if they are still in the 2nd tier. Sell the club at that point ( 10 or 15 million quid, whatever), would be gravy, or at least give them a decent return on their investment over their tenure.
    They may well be in deep **** if we are relegated...they'd need to hang around for a lot longer to get their investment out - if ever. That's the dice rolling bit.
    It will not be much fun for our supporters battling relegation survival for the next couple of years.
     
    #53
  14. yorkys

    yorkys Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2017
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    57
    They don't need to they have taken loans out to get that money now
    And it's 2 years I think as we came straight back down had we have had another season in prem and then come down we would had 3 as far as I'm aware
     
    #54
  15. Top_Tiger

    Top_Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    3,709
    Likes Received:
    2,893
    This is exactly what is happening. This is what they planned to do even last year in the Premier League and Bruce knew hence why he left. Soon as the club wasn't sold (let's be honest it never was going to meet their valuation) they are in assset stripping mode by making money one way or the other.
     
    #55
  16. StCloudTiger

    StCloudTiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    683
    Likes Received:
    494
    Dawson must start and sure he will. Mannion Evandro and Meyler wont all make it. Max Clarke will defo be in squad imo.
     
    #56
  17. Hutch-tiger69

    Hutch-tiger69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2015
    Messages:
    1,412
    Likes Received:
    626
    We need slutsky to galvanise what we have, and hope we have luck with injurys, hopefully slutsky and the two recruitment guys can find some bargains along the way
     
    #57
  18. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2012
    Messages:
    25,725
    Likes Received:
    10,630
    I'm not so sure that they had worked that out before last season. Why bring in Silva and spunk out on all those loans in the mid-season window ?
    Unless of course they had a temporary change of heart, or Ehab's new-found control of the club as a result of father's illness shifted the focus ?
     
    #58
  19. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,208
    Likes Received:
    6,772
    You answered the question yourself. Selling biggest assets then replacing with loans and then bringing in a management team on 6 month contracts (effectively loans) said it all. Was hedging his bets. but no long term investment. It was very clear what his plan was then.
     
    #59
  20. amberman8

    amberman8 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    1,756
    I dont like campbell but Just get a feeling if he plays he will do a job
    .
    .no logic.....Just a gut feeling.


    And boy do i have a gut
     
    #60

Share This Page