Just read that Song and Gervinho have picked up a three match ban each, so where do we go now, last nights showing hardly encourages confidence in what is left, no recognsed DM, no recognised MF no second recognised striker and a defence that sometimes doesnt seem to recognise each other. I also see AW is looking at Yann M'Vila, Juan Mata, Jadson from Shaktar and Andre Ayew. Now I admit I am not entirely conversant with the nitty gritty of European football, but these are not names that trip off the tongue of anybody else I discuss them with, but if they can be as effective as Squillacci, Koscelni, Chamack, Vela, Diabi, Rosicki then perhaps I dont need to know. This season has disaster written all over it, time for transition is over, rebuilding with bricks of a proven calibre is necessary now.
I think we should consider the possibility that Miyaichi, Jenkinson, Gervinho and AOC are actually good enough now, let alone the future. Just consider the possibility, however slim.
frimpong to play in songs position, and ryo myaichi is back for liverpool so he could have a big part to play and walcott could be deployed as a striker as he looked sh** hot last night
Slim too is the transfer window that remains when we have an opportunity to access all of the above players in action as a team. We will not see Gervinho ( and Song ) playing until after the end of August so there is very little time. And even if they work out, it doesn't mean we do not have to replace Cesc or Nasri since the gaps they leave will be great and I'm willing to wager that those three matches remaining in August will show up most if not all of our deficiencies. The players you mentioned are all young thus making them no different to the team we had leading up to and including the meltdown of last season. If anything, these are even younger and therefore without the experience necessary as we have seen, to be thick in combat and come out smiling. We have to buy and not bargain basement either because that won't work, leaving the work to do once again in January.
From what I've seen, the mentality of our youngsters is better than the older players. Wilshere and Szczesny have shown that they are confident, gifted and mature (Wilshere isn't off the pitch I know) players.
Im sure he will buy someone to fill the cesc role, it did show last night. but as being reported on loads of websites he said he will buy players even if they ALL (not each) cost 30 or even 40mil, so i can see 2-3 players joining, but time is running out, 3 days since cesc left and there has been no bids9that we know of) for any of our reported targets there is still 2 weeks left till window closes, i could understand fans concerns if it was 5-7 days left
Yes Rannaranshere you have a point. I would take a Szczes and a Wilshire who have shown they never give up unlike more recent loftier members. However just relying on what we have I feel keeps us on a tight leash with no options and remember of course the new incoming players are untried in any of the competitions. Having a couple of quality signings will bring in momentum, encouragement, experience ( as in the case of Cahill et al ) and confidence to the team and us fans. Us fans have taken a battering since February as you know. If we do not bring in the changes now, the next opportunity will be January. Injuries in the meantime will leave us little or no cover so it's a shoestring approach, not unlike what we have been using and which has proven to be inadequate for our purposes.
I very much want new signings. I'm just at the stage where I think we have to hope what we've brought in is more than all of us expected.
Ahh yes so like some of us, you fear that our management may dither through the remaining fortnight of this transfer window....... I wish this were otherwise. Still one always hopes
I just can't believe we're not getting the wheels turning. I just can't. Mind you, nobody knew Oxlade was coming (rumours aside) until he turned up for his medical.
Like I said, we can all hope and pray that everything is being done on the Q-T or the voice of the fans in The Emirates will be anything but low.
Wenger knows more than all of us admittedly, but for a man, who knows what it takes to win a Prem,why are Arsenal in this position 2 weeks from the end of the window. The need for a deeper squad is even more obvious given Arsenal's injury record. It is not his fault, but Djourou injured and not after a bad tackle after 9mins sums it up. 12 mil for Oxlade- Chamberlain is a risk for an unproven player yet last year he would not stump up an extra 1 or 2 mil for Schwarzer.
There's something askew about the thinking of the management which is not helped by the level of indecision that appears to exist. There are things they really need to change and it's not just the youth policy. Even the most basic approach to comparing like for like says that you don't sell your top players and buy in teenagers as replacements. And then it seems we are always short of players because of injury. Does that therefore mean that we do not have sufficient first team players to get the job done? Well currently we don't since we are yet to bring in replacements. So I hope some quality big names are on the way or else some of the management need to be on their way especially if their approach does not change.
the youth policy doesn't need changing. i'm all in favour of making superstars rather than buying them. just when it doesn't work out, or the superstars leave, you need to replace them. ramsey, wilshere are good enough. diaby is inconsistent, rosicky looks a shadow of his former self. that means more players for CM are needed. who will play there at the weekend if Rosicky is out!? Arshavin? it won't be Gervinho. Will RvP play deep and have Chamakh ahead of him? will Wenger go 4-4-2 with Theo & RvP up front, Miyaichi & Arshavin on the wings & Frimpong & Ramsey in MF? That honestly looks the best option right now, and that's worrying!! especially as Arshavin isn't famed for his tracking back, and the LB might be Sagna!!!
Yeah i do not have a problem with our youth policy. I think it has worked very well to allow us to move from Highbury to the Emirates and has meant we had the chance to see Fabregas play for years and other top young talents are comming through. Our youth policy has produced the player that may well captain the England team. It also means without spending massive money you can brign through a team littered with talent. The only issue i have with our youth policy as Bonstar has already said, is that we do not replace the top quality players when they leave. Innevitably we will have some players leave before the whole team has matured enough for the AW experiment to show its full strength, the problem has been not buying to replace these players. With Fabregas leaving we need to buy a player of similar age or older who can step straight into the team and do a job. Like for Like replacements is what has been missing from our team sicne the invincibles. More than i want a CB i want to see us bring in a quality CM.
Apologies friends, I should have rephrased. this comes with trying to get a post out too quickly - an inherent fault of mine. Could be DNA perhaps? The payment system was the element in our policy that I was driving at. At Arsenal, it appears that young players receive a higher remuneration based on their potential. Hence the peak is around £90K per week. Well, when these players get older and infact coming into their period of greatest contribution ( to the team ), they receive approaches from other clubs with salary offers which far exceed that of our wage scale which was derived through our policy. That needs to change or we'll always be fighting an uphill battle to maintain our young stars. Who is to say that the likes of Walcott, Wilshere, Miyaichi, Ramsey et al would not be tempted by higher rewards in years to come? To continue, I don't know what incoming players are being offered but if our salary scale does not meet their expectations then we are unlikely to attract them save perhaps with the lure of playing in the CL which at the moment hangs by a thread..... So yes we do need to regroup and indeed reinforce if we are to achieve the instruments to help us materialise our goals.
Yeah i have to agree our young players get paid too much. I'm all for giving youth a chance, giving them game time, putting faith in them and even paying more than other clubs would for there young players. But it needs to be done in a way where our highest earners can be closer on the scale to utd/chelsea/city.
