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Kone & Lens

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Brian Storm, Jul 13, 2017.

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Do you want them to stay?

Poll closed Jul 16, 2017.
  1. Kone not Lens

    8.1%
  2. Lens not Kone

    8.1%
  3. Both stay

    21.6%
  4. Both Leave

    62.2%
  1. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't disagree with that either.

    My vote was a very reluctant vote!
     
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  2. Bizarreknives

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    Straight into shorts pocket.
     
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  3. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    While the club was up for sale I'd say fair dos, reduces the debt and increases our chance of selling the club. Now we're not for sale the thought of never ending cost cutting cycles scares me to death. :(
     
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  4. BIG BAZ

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    Hopefully not but you'll probably right pal <ok>
     
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  5. The Outlaw

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    Grayson decides. Looks to me he's doing everything right. Trust in him!
     
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  6. Nacho

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    It's a fair point. We know what we've seen on the pitch and heard off it but unless you're working with the blokes day in day out you don't really know what the story is. Grayson seems to know what he's doing.
     
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  7. RTB

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    It's a shame we didn't see more of this from Lens - not fussed if both go.

     
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  8. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Do I want them to stay, is the question, if the choiceanswer was a straight option between yes or no, I would say yes to both of them, Its never that simple of course, so I will just wait and see what happens and go with the flow.
     
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  9. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Lens. Kone. Khazri should eat that league..

    Wont happen like.
     
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  10. red&white wanderer

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    Both disruptive influences MUST go
    But I would like Khazri to stay
     
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  11. red&white wanderer

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    The Perth melt down was a good thing for Grayson -he sae for himself who wants to play here and most importantly who does'nt -get rid asap and keep persevering with our younger players pre season :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  12. DAPARKERSAFC

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    That's the thing though. The St Johnstone goals weren't down to Kone and Lens attitude. It was down to Mannone and Oshea being ****e
     
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  13. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Lot of people wanted o'shea to stay. Still don't get it. His flaws are of a nature he'll be exposed at any level. He's a cart horse and has been for a while.
     
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  14. clockstander

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    Since he left Man U. and joined us to be exact. <laugh>
     
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  15. RedNWhite4Life

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    Still think Oshea can do a job for us but only besides a commanding centre half like what Kone was for 3 months. His leadership and organisational skills mean we look more solid as a defensive unit when he plays. Yes he makes **** ups all centre half's do just to me it seems he is an east scapegoat for fans.

    Just my opinion like.
     
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  16. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Who are the 'scapegoaters' trying to protect by saying he's poor? He makes enough of his own mistakes without the need to blame him for others <laugh>
     
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  17. RedNWhite4Life

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    Not saying the scapegoaters are trying to protect anything. From where I sit in the North stand most fans can't wait to jump all over him. He takes a bad touch after a shocking pass it's his fault. Our full back gets out jumped by a centre forward and it's his fault for not being 20 yards out of position. He gets skinned he gets yelled at to take the man out. He takes the man out next time and gets even more ****.

    Yes he ain't perfect. Yes his legs have gone but surely in this league against less mobile centre forwards he can still do a job for us.

    I even heard Oshea getting **** for Llorente out jumping Pickford and scoring last season even though he was actually marking Alfie Mawson.

    Everyone who goes to games know the fans turn on certain players a hell of a lot quicker than others. Ill admit there are times he deserves it but like I say in my opinion a lot of it is unjustified.
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    I don't think the forwards are less mobile in this league. Even **** players can be quick. Personal I think he's not just slow, he's flat footed and stiff as a board. Not I want when the scrapy standard has the ball pin balling about the area regularly cumbersome o'shea on his heels. Frightens **** out of me to be honest. You face pace and agility at every level, even Sunday League, he can't deal with it which is why I think he's finished at every level.

    I think he's been finished for years. Staggered we're still paying him.
     
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  19. Nads

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    O'Shea is a ****ing awful defender and has been for at least 3 years.

    I can see justification of a lower paid contract to help with the young lads but if he's playin we will continue to ship goals for fun even at the lower level.

    That's nothing personal against him, it's reality. He's long gone.
     
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  20. Commachio

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    He's chod. Should have been put out to pasture years ago. Nowt but a cart horse.
     
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