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Daily Racing Thread Saturday 15th. July 2017

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. Doalittle

    Doalittle Well-Known Member

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    Think he was just green. He seemed to lose a lenght or two after a couple of furlongs and it all went wrong from there.
     
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  2. Bostonbob

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    Barney will
     
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  3. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Intricately e/w for an interest
     
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  4. DreverSpur

    DreverSpur Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth, here are my Triumph notes Oddy...

    APPLE'S SHAKIRA (3yo f) Full sister to Apple's Jade!! Probably goes Mares Novice if seen at all next year.

    EMPREINTE RECONCE (AQPS 3yo f) Bolted up by 7 lengths in AQPS bumper in Mares only race, early April - coming over here, potential Mares Novice/Triumph (25/1 B365)/Bumper horse

    ESPOIR D'ALLEN (AQPS 3yo g) Won the geldings AQPS bumper on the same card as the above by a length - coming over here, potential Triumph/Bumper horse

    ELECTRO LIDO €45k (3yo g) bought by Mullins - by Voix Du Nord (same sire as Vroom Vroom Mag & Defi Du Seuil)

    So there's a few you can cross off your list <cheers>
     
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  5. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Class filly
     
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  6. Bostonbob

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    Enable a serious arc contender?
     
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  7. Doalittle

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    She's either really good or she's beating listed class fillies. And I have no idea which one it is.
     
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  8. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Nice place money there at a decent price FP.
     
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  9. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Definitely, shes better than any of the 3yo colts here anyway. She might not be beating any superstars but you can just tell there is a star quality about her that none of the Derby horses have shown. And the Rhododendron who turned up in the Oaks was a very decent horse.
     
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  10. Doalittle

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    If Almanzor isnt back for the Arc she'll be fav.
     
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  11. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    Imagine there were a horse called Barney Will, owned by Mr Ponsenby and trained by Mr Henderson and we were all on at 50/1 for the Triumph............... happy days at the coal face <ok>
     
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  12. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    French Derby winner wins the Arc this year lads ................... if only I could remember its fecking name <doh>
     
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  13. Bostonbob

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    Barney Will, ante-post? It won't run, no doubt..<laugh>
     
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  15. Ron

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    It's banter of the friendliest kind Drever. We all respect Joe's views. If I had a fiver for every time he was right and I was wrong I would have a tidy betting fund to play with
     
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  16. QuarterMoonII

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    Lady Aurelia, although not European, is currently the top rated sprinter in Europe. As Caravaggio’s style of racing appears to be to drop out and come with a late run, a tardy start in the Nunthorpe would make his task very difficult. He managed to overcome a very slow start at Ascot but made a better start at Newmarket and lost. I note that when interviewed before the July Cup and asked to compare Caravaggio with other Ballydoyle sprinters such as Mozart, O’Blarney ducked the question.

    To step up to seven furlongs really only means one race, the Prix de la Forêt on Arc weekend as it is the only Group 1 race over seven furlongs in Europe. I think that to run in any of the lesser seven furlong events would mean having to carry a Group 1 penalty. Given that he is viewed as heir-apparent to his late father Scat Daddy, they might view the Prix Maurice de Gheest – a Group 1 over six and a half furlongs – as a target.
     
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  17. QuarterMoonII

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    Quite honestly, I looked at the race for a good ten seconds this morning because her opponents did look like Group 3 type fillies and she was not a false 2/5 shot. From what I have read, the Arc may well be the target and the next stop may be the Yorkshire Oaks, where potentially she could face any older fillies that want to help us get a handle on whether she is really good or just good and beating trees.
     
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  18. QuarterMoonII

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    Brametot.

    If Almanzor manages to make it back to the track in the same form that he finished last term (top-rated European), trainer Jean Claude Rouget will have an interesting quandary: two Prix du Jockey Club winners who at the moment have not raced beyond ten furlongs.
     
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