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Lack Of Faith is Misplaced.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Kyle?, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    There is an article blaming Wenger for taking our club downhill. that may or may not be true, but what will destroy the season is the negative reactions of some of the fans. I'm a realist, but also an optimist. The departure of Fabregas (we'll miss you Cesc)and the imminent departure of Nasri (won't miss him too much) are opportunities for some of our younger players to stake a claim in the team. I can see Ramsey being a more than capable replacement for cesc, and we have promising talent such as OXO and Miyaichi to replace Nasri. Maybe one or two signings would be good, but there is nothing wrong with the squad, only the attitudes of some of the supporters. When we signed Cesc as a 16 year old, i doubt any of you thought he would go on to be the player that he is today. We can have that success with our youngsters, if we treat them properly.
     
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  2. There is every reason the youngsters like Ryo, OXO will excel in the future. In fact I'm sure we'll see good things from them this year. There are still gaps in the squad though which need to be filled very very soon if we are to make something of this season. We really need to get through that match in Italy next week. If I hear Arsene saying we did well, created chances but didn't take them etc etc about tonight I'm just going to think it's an act.
     
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  3. Kyle?

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    Maybe, but i'm more puzzled by your signature. We have too many attacking midfileders/wingers as it is. There is no room for Eden Hazard.
     
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  4. Well Mr Cowboy, indeed we do have attackers but I see Eden Hazard more for his creative qualities, one who spots and makes opportunities for the forwards so IMHO he would be a perfect replacement for Cesc. I just hope he's the right person
     
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    It's a good idea, but he's far more able on the wing than in a central role. I would attempt to sign a creative centre midfielder. I hear Luka Modric is available, that''ll piss spurs off.
     
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  6. Samurai

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    We're tired of 'will be good in a few seasons'

    While Eden Hazard will develop into a player that might be on the level of Fabregas, I would take Scott Parker over him because 1) TROPHIES NOW PLEASE and 2) By the time he's any good Barcelona will sign him.

    This Jadson bloke looks alright. 27 years old, that would be good enough for me.
     
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  7. Kyle?

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    I would like Scott Parker. Proven premier league and international player, and an outstanding leader.
     
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  8. Well Guys

    Whoever Arsene picks I sure hope it's the right one and that he does it like ' last month ' if you get my drift. I really must ask Arsene if he is aware that each week that slips by means each week of opportunities lost for us. In the space of 4 days so far we have taken 1 point and headed a mediocre Italian side by 1 goal. To me that's 2 points lost and a tough, not to mention nervous CL match in waiting. How many more of these weeks are there in store before Arsene does something? I heard a podcast where Tim Payton of the Arsenal Supporters Trust gave assurances that Arsene will sign a CB. I hope there is a midfielder in there too to cover Cesc because if there isn't, we might as well forget about the CL next year or for that matter, most of this season. The decision making process at the Emirates is not good for one's blood pressure.
     
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  9. robin_van_ fiberglass

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    Harsh but true.

    Wenger went for the approach of buying young players that he can develop in to superstars mainly out of economic necessity as we had to pay off the emirates stadium debts. It was a method that was supposed to leave us with a title winning squad round about now. However we have not done this due to the continual problem of mental weakness and not replacing our outgoing players adequately enough. It is clear that we need to change tack as at the moment because we are buying for the future but when our players become old enough to be important for us they leave. Thats why I am not happy with the way things are.
     
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    cowboys you better get checked for a hearing aid,modric is'nt available
     
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  11. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Can't argue with this - I can't help thinking that Cesc and Nasri would be happy at Arsenal had Wenger brought in a couple more top quality players in the last 3-4 years that could have helped us in the final push of those seasons where we came so close, yet ended up with nothing.
    To be honest, and to his credit, I'm surprised that RVP hasn't been linked with a move away, he's certainly good enough to play in any team.
    I really think we need to make sure that players like Wilshere and Ramsey aren't relied on too heavily to carry this team. If we don't add some top quality and end up repeating the same mistakes, then you can bet that they will be off in a few seasons time too.
     
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    I should say that I was fully supportive of that method when he started it as it was the only way of being able to compete with our financial restrictions. However now we do have money to spend it seems foolish to continue with that approach, I am not one of those unrealistic football manager fans who want us to blow other teams out of the water for big names but I do think Wenger needs to target more proven players.
     
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  13. Yeah totally agree there especially in January this year when Arsene knew we could have come up short when TV injured yet he kept holding out. Bringing in a stopper to back up Szcsezny would have been a lot smarter than deputising Ole' Manuel and ressurecting Jens. Arsene sometimes reminds me of one of my dad's sayings which is ' penny-wise, pound-foolish '

    RVP has been extremely loyal and even when his contract comes up I wouldn't be surprised if he spurns overture from other clubs. He's happy with us, in England and enjoying life with his family and as he says, his beautiful wife. I recall the special one trying for him at one stage. RVP definitely deserves to lead the team on the field.
     
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  14. Well he has a great opportunity to turn the Cesc/Nasri sagas round into something really positive for the club. If he loses this chance I doubt if he will have another one again and really were we to come to that then who else can he blame for this.....
     
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    Bid £30 million for Modric - cash, all up-front. See if we can't turn his head!

    Bid £25 million for Kaka - see if we can convince him the move is worthwhile, probably requries us to change our wage structure.

    Bid £20 million for Mata, supposedly not gonna happen but i recon if we threw the money in there faces they would accept.

    Bid £30 million for Sniejder, rumours are all about Utd but why not throw our hat into the mix, again this one would require a rethink of our wage structure.

    If we put in bids for players of this quality and keep pushing away we will find one who we can get into the club. And imo to replace a player of Cesc' quality will require the purchase of a top player.
     
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  16. Tavjones

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    I think one of the things we need as well is a decent striker. Out keeper now seems ok. At the back I would prefer a centre back and someone like Parker Would do us a great Job for a while. Either as a dm or to play in front of the dm and help us to tough out games. is it just me or do we lack goals an have for a while. Someone like benzema would allow us to take chances and not over committ. Is also a great option when rvp gets crocked. Question is does arsene consider benzema quality and better than we have? I think a signing like this would ALS excite the fans.
     
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  17. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    At least our owners aren't pocketing the profits to subsidise their failing business' in the USA
     
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  18. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    I was just commenting on your post about about our board susposedly pocketing all our profits.If you did some research you would find out that our board have not taken dividends for years.They do not use our club as a cash cow for failing business' either <ok>
     
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  19. TheBear

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    I still have faith Wenger will bring in a couple of signings before the transfer window closes.

    Realistically we need a centreback, a left back and a playmaker. We have a good £60 Million in terms of budget but will Arsenal use it to strengthen or is it all about profit for the club?


    Making on average £20-40m profit isn&#8217;t sustainable, it&#8217;s money hoarding.

    The stadium is getting empty, why do you think that&#8217;s happening? The lack of investment is killing the club, and it seems no-one has any desire to spend money, or force the manager to spend money.

    Even Tim Payton said just a few days ago, £100m cant score a winning goal or keep a clean sheet, or bring success. The players £100m can purchase absolutely can.

    If we don&#8217;t start to act like a big club we will become exactly what we are acting like &#8211; a small club trying to eek out profits.

    Then when we find ourselves with 40,000 fans in 3 years, and 8th in the PL, the board and manager will blame the recession, which is nonsense. The club is strategically destroying any chance of success we might have by putting profits first.
     
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