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  1. The Ginger Marks

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    He was wrong as there is no context to arrive at that conclusion and it mentions the Jews, Christians and Sabeans later in another book which killed his premise for context. There was also another where he was questioning the HB but he embarrassed himself with his biased interpretation of the word begotten.
     
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  3. DMD

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    Addressed in what way?
     
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    it's actually quite clear and even what I said before about those who became came before and those who came after answers this too

    A child is not sinful similarly and I always use the example of someone like Tarzan would not be accountable if he never heard the message

    It's actually quite clear if you look
     
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    As to why he refuses them

    What do you have to remember is that a lot of no bodies want to gain Fame by standing on a platform with someone like him and if you look at the attendances and audiences he get received around the world you can't deny him the choice of arguing somebody who is similar in stature rather than someone like I think wood who couldn't get past Shabbir Ally
     
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  6. DMD

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    Not really. Abrahimic faiths were quite regional. Many, if not most parts of the world would have had no idea of many of the stories they told, nor the rules until relatively recently. That in itself points to it not being divine.


    Why would all powerful, all knowing, all caring god need to create people like that, and test them?
     
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    As I say I don't know which video you watched but the general point I made is actually clarified in the Quran and that is that when Christianity came onto the scene and was established then you follow that but anybody who followed the previous scripture and adhered to the laws is not punishable
     
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  8. DMD

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    He can't preach in many parts, because the people of his faith flagged his preaching up.

    If he wanted to show how good he was, why wouldn't he want to take on those at the highest level and prove his case?

    How many people watch his videos for the comedy value? They guy is barking and it's often not difficult to find the holes in his arguments.

    Mind you, he may not have a choice but to perform, as I think there's an arrest warrant out for him in his own country isn't there?
     
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    Not really what?

    the Quran says that those who are questioned but said we did not hear the Call are to be exempt

    Furthermore it is something that can be used against the Muslim that a person in there vicinity was not given the message today even non-religious children in primary school know about Islam throughout the world
     
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    I don't know why don't you ask him on my part I recognise his limitations and have heard him say he is a student of comparative religion and certainly knows his stuff he has never cleaned to be anything else and I have never claimed that he is correct in every aspect on the contrary my initial response was negative
     
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    Ace, I've not heard the call, so I can do as I please and still get my share of paradise, with none of the threats and bungs.
     
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    I don't know about 'knows his stuff', not based on the bits I've seen.
     
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    I know you are in the Habit of forgetting things for example our earlier discussion where I explain something to you on Sunday and by Tuesday you were claiming I hadn't explain anything but you can never claim you haven't heard the message the good news for you is that if you have problems with memory or sanity you can be exempt to
     
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    I would be surprised if you remembered
     
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    You really shouldn't bring up your inability to disprove that you follow a bastardisation of pagan religions, especially after you put all that effort in to burying it.

    Oh, and I'm sure your god will be noting down the lies of yours.
     
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    The odd bit of reality that reaches you, does seem to surprise you.

    He's barking.
     
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    The scriptures were around long before Islam came on the scene Fan. The quote I posted said "Those who believe in the Jewish faith, being Christian and Sabeans have no fears on the final day". This is clearly stated in the present. So Naiks explanation was either disingenuous or just plain wrong.
     
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    Bad news is I'll bear witness that he heard it <cheers>
     
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    Cool, we can share your hell together.

    Won't that be fun. <ok>
     
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    I am not disputing the quote or even the vid you saw

    My point was and is what I recall seeing him explain, not just that but I also know that the peoples of the books have no fears whilst those books were the only ones.

    Its a past present thing always has been but some try and show it, wrongly, as a contradiction and are corrected
     
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