Oops I had Norwich and you in mind when typing incessant, realised that was incest In that context bone party made sense
Just piss, or get off the pot ffs. Here's my response to your demands before. I didn't actually agree to your demands. You're not in a position to make any, but I'm a patient and tolerant sort of bloke, so I'm humouring you, and answering the questions you demanded anyway. I have answered, and I've elaborated on the answers, but I did suspect you'd try to claim they were questions, rather than the 'nudge' that they are. Many will pay testament to the fact that I'll happily go along with your games for one hell of a long time, so you'd best get settled in. Anyway, as you seem determined not to join in the conversation due to how I structured my answer, I'll reword it, mainly out of curiosity to see how many different ways you'll be dishonest and cowardly, because you know that once you accept I've answered your demand, you'll be left trying to avoid answering the other questions. To recap, your demand was: "Before I address any further issues raised I would like an explanation on how you believe I have "got indignant" and an explanation how the Koran is a variation of paganism adapted for political gain. i would specifically like this open minded background you speak of. No answer to that and no more engaging with you" http://www.not606.com/threads/aliens.349638/page-24#post-10698389 So, Your replies demonstrate that you 'get indignant' and your more recent ones confirm this. Indignant: showing anger or annoyance at what is perceived as unfair treatment. That's nicely summed up by your demand for answers. Many of the rituals and traditions of Islam, predate it, and were carried out by pagans. Pagans shared the Hajj until mohamed kicked them out. Some of mohamed's buddies complained about some of the rituals because of their pagan background. Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 689: Narrated Abu Huraira: In the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Allahs Apostle made Abu Bakr the leader of the pilgrims, the latter (Abu Bakr) sent me in the company of a group of people to make a public announcement: 'No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year, and no naked person is allowed to perform Tawaf of the Kaba.' Sahih al-Bukhari 2 Book 26 710 Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.'" (2.158) As for the politicalisation, it's self evident. Most countries separate church and state. It is virtually impossible to do that (although I think Kosovo managed) and strictly follow islam, because much of the instruction in the koran is about governance and law, particularly judgments. It cannot be subservient to state.
What you afraid of? I wanna play so come on if you have the guts Me v you quid pro quo Let's make it happen I wonder if we can do a live thing?
I'm the one answering, you're the one hiding. Others can decide who the coward is. I suspect other people get tired of this nonsense, and drift away leaving you to claim 'victory'. Me, I've zero interest in winning or losing, and as others will attest to, I can go on with this sort of **** for days. You can either walk away now, respond on this thread, or start this 'competition' thing you're burbling about. My guess is you'll do none of those, you'll just carry on talking nonsense.
Oh I can go on for days Just need to ensure its not a Q and A Let's to this, to you agree to the terms? Add some of your own and we can iron them out before hand
I have zero idea what the **** your burbling about, but okay, I agree to it. So to kick us off. To recap, your demand was: "Before I address any further issues raised I would like an explanation on how you believe I have "got indignant" and an explanation how the Koran is a variation of paganism adapted for political gain. i would specifically like this open minded background you speak of. No answer to that and no more engaging with you" http://www.not606.com/threads/aliens.349638/page-24#post-10698389 So, Your replies demonstrate that you 'get indignant' and your more recent ones confirm this. Indignant: showing anger or annoyance at what is perceived as unfair treatment. That's nicely summed up by your demand for answers. Many of the rituals and traditions of Islam, predate it, and were carried out by pagans. Pagans shared the Hajj until mohamed kicked them out. Some of mohamed's buddies complained about some of the rituals because of their pagan background. Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 689: Narrated Abu Huraira: In the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Allahs Apostle made Abu Bakr the leader of the pilgrims, the latter (Abu Bakr) sent me in the company of a group of people to make a public announcement: 'No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year, and no naked person is allowed to perform Tawaf of the Kaba.' Sahih al-Bukhari 2 Book 26 710 Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.'" (2.158) As for the politicalisation, it's self evident. Most countries separate church and state. It is virtually impossible to do that (although I think Kosovo managed) and strictly follow islam, because much of the instruction in the koran is about governance and law, particularly judgments. It cannot be subservient to state.
Please feel free to tell us what university disciplines you studied and completed the full term (in order to be awarded a qualification) , and where.
No no no Not knowing what I am burbling on about won't do I need you to be clear. You have said uoi didn't agree to my conditions before, that wing wash now. This is me v you and there WILL be boundaries. No generalisations eg "much of the Koran us about governance and law" without clarification and evidence. Or traditions are pagan in origin without detail No answers to questions with questions (unless clarification is sought) and an answer given will require a chance to follow up with a question as Hannibal said to Clarice quid PTO quo
I didn't think it'd do, but it was fun to try. Just go for it. I agree. So, my response has no questions, they're just statements in line with your conditions and no wing washing. To recap, your demand was: "Before I address any further issues raised I would like an explanation on how you believe I have "got indignant" and an explanation how the Koran is a variation of paganism adapted for political gain. i would specifically like this open minded background you speak of. No answer to that and no more engaging with you" http://www.not606.com/threads/aliens.349638/page-24#post-10698389 So, Your replies demonstrate that you 'get indignant' and your more recent ones confirm this. Indignant: showing anger or annoyance at what is perceived as unfair treatment. That's nicely summed up by your demand for answers. Many of the rituals and traditions of Islam, predate it, and were carried out by pagans. Pagans shared the Hajj until mohamed kicked them out. Some of mohamed's buddies complained about some of the rituals because of their pagan background. Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 689: Narrated Abu Huraira: In the year prior to the last Hajj of the Prophet when Allahs Apostle made Abu Bakr the leader of the pilgrims, the latter (Abu Bakr) sent me in the company of a group of people to make a public announcement: 'No pagan is allowed to perform Hajj after this year, and no naked person is allowed to perform Tawaf of the Kaba.' Sahih al-Bukhari 2 Book 26 710 Narrated 'Asim: I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.'" (2.158) As for the politicalisation, it's self evident. Most countries separate church and state. It is virtually impossible to do that (although I think Kosovo managed) and strictly follow islam, because much of the instruction in the koran is about governance and law, particularly judgments. It cannot be subservient to state. Your go.
I know I'm a bit late on this but hey. Geothermal vents and anaerobic conditions are far closer to the early conditions found on earth than we have today. High levels of sulphur from volcanic activity and no oxygen is where life appears to originate with the earliest known fossil evidence being in geothermal vents 4.2 billion years ago. The reason we have oxygen in the atmosphere is due to the evolution of photosynthesis 3.4 billion years ago. Is there alien life? Definitely, but I think Arthur C Clarke was the one that said it wouldn't be stupid enough to visit us. My feeling is there is lots of alien life but we are all too far apart to ever make contact. I also agree with drakes equation which states each civilisation has a limited time when it is detectable (transmitting radio waves into space ) and capable/desiring space travel. The net result is an intelligent could've looking a million years ago and not found us, but now we are looking they no longer exist or are no longer listening.
I mentioned the institutions and that is sufficient. If you require further proof it won't be over the net. Am happy to show you in person if it means that much to you and you wish to pop down to my neck of the woods
I got a BSc. Eng in Computing Science from Imperial College. I haven't suffered calamity for typing the above line. Does your god command you not to state similar ??
