phil hay is gonna look a bit silly if this is false. http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....d-whites-on-course-to-win-saiz-race-1-8619423
morning all ... heard that Lampard is visiting Oxford with a view to being their manager, Pep may end up an assistant yet again at this rate ... if Lampard takes the gig, may well have Terry as his player/assistant the fact that we're considering another 'keeper shows that Silvestri is done, and as he is out of contract next season there must be thoughts about selling him now ... Cellino really messed up some Italian players' careers by blindly signing them, if only they knew how insane he was with his constant interference and hiring dreadful puppets to "manage" the team good luck to Bellusci wherever he ends up, he got caught up in Cellino's crazy world and lost his way ... we'll never know how he would have been alongside Pontus, but I'll bet there would have been many a Championship striker this season who will have pulled a hammy in training two days before they were due to play against Leeds knowing they would have been up against the Viking and the Warrior Saiz sounds like another creative player, and to be fair we were all lamenting the fact that midfield was the one area where we were lacking creative quality ... our defence was strong, Wood up front showed his undoubted class scoring 30 on scraps, we just needed to get more quality passes out of our midfield ... too often passes went astray or were played too far ahead of our wingers, with the midfield being static and not supporting attacks enough ... Tommy has clearly identified this as an immediate area for improvement, and it seems we'll see a Leeds team applying more pressure to the opposition in their own half this season ... that's going to kaibosh Reading's possession stats for sure, but at least they won't be able to play 40 square passes before hoofing one up the park Madge from Liverpool is an Orta signing, he was at Villarreal when Orta was there ... we don't have genuine wide players in our Development Squad, so this is really a "let's take a no risk look" signing, and who knows, the kid may well turn out to be a diamond Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
David Conn@david_conn 58m58 minutes ago BREAKING: Hillsborough: Six people have been charged with criminal offences, including ex Ch Supt Duckenfield & Sir Norman Bettison. please log in to view this image
Good post, Billy. Btw, and as one of the more favourable commentators on Bellusci, I'd like to elicit your opinion on a view I have on him. I rated him in many respects, but there was no denying he always had a mistake in him, plus completely uncontrollable madness at times. I watched his skills, his ability to comfortably attack, & his rifle shots, & I honestly believe he'd make a better DM or possibly a BtBM, rather than a CB. I'd value your consideration of this.
I smell another whitewash charade. The fact that the charges haven't been specified immediately gets my hackles up. I'll only be satisfied when I see them jailed. And why no action against the Scum or Kelvin McKenzie? Their action was scandalous and they were complicit in helping the police cover up by smearing the fans.
i agree they should be charged and so should their own supporters who pushed there own up against the fences .many of them without tickets.once again victimpool will get off with it just like Hysel stadium disaster.
You didn't court my opinion but I'll give it regardless. Bellusci was a good footballer but not a good championship centre-half. Always thought he'd make a decent defensive midfielder. We often looked a better side with him in, until he fell over, scored a spectacular own goal etc.
agree Jocko, as a DM Bellusci would make a genuine impact as he can break up play and pick a pass ... also, he would have to be more mobile, giving him less time to dwell on things and lose his concentration ... maybe you should write to his next club and give them a heads up, because he will be very effective in this role Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Not sure the Sun did anything illegal. Telling lies in newspapers is legal, I believe. (Edited to add: I mean in context of criminal law, obviously civil action has other criteria) Why do you smell whitewash? Does not sound like it to me
Hillsborough still leaves me cold ... the key thing for me, when you see video of thousands of ticketless fans swarming down Leppings Lane and charging the gates, it's clear that the root cause of the tragedy was the behaviour of the Liverpool fans ... I honestly believe that if it was Leeds in this situation, our club would have been branded as thugs and probably booted out of football "to make an example" the police were given very little choice, because people were starting to get crushed against the gates, and had they not opened the gates there would have been serious trouble anyway ... something that hasn't been taken into account is that the police had never trained for something like this, and had never faced such overcrowding because of thousands of ticketless fans trying to break into the stadium ... the steel fencing was the next contributor, because the fencing was there to keep people in but only worked if the numbers in the ground were right ... surely the FA should be on trial as well for putting up fences in the first place, as these along with illegal Liverpool fans were the cause of the problem here's another mitigating circumstance ... if the police had not opened the gates, the gates would eventually have been compromised and the overcrowding would have happened anyway ... I'm sorry, but for me Liverpool FC should have been charged with not controlling their fans, and the club should be forced to pay compensation to the victims' families ... the police are an easy, unpopular target here, and it's just plain wrong that the real perpetrators of this crime, the ticketless Liverpool fans, are treated as heroic victims Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
I was at the Luton v Wall game in 85 I was in the away end of the stadium which was slowly getting more and more packed,luckily me and my brother in law decided to move more to the side than stay in the centre because it was becoming impossible to move. more and more fans were being forced into the already over crowded end. eventually something had to give people down the front were being crushed, they forced their way through the fencing and onto the pitch, the police and stewards unaware of what was actually happening tried to force these people back on to the terraces. but still more and more were coming onto the terrace so more and more escaped onto the pitch. and tried to make their way to the side stand where there was lots of space the Police thought it was hooligans and were threatening arrests and then arrived with dogs The wall fans unlike the stewards and the police were aware of what was actually happening and charged the police. the problem was Luton would not make the game all ticket and did not anticipate the numbers. my point after all that waffle is billy is saying Liverpool fc should be at blame for not controlling their fans by the same token is he saying Millwall fc are responsible for what happened at Luton ?
Morning all. We're back on the Championship board you bunch of coal munchers!! Funnily enough a wise one said we would be if we made the playoffs..........
In 851 knew you were knocking on a bit but even I would have said you were 10 years younger than that
Very nearly did happen to us Billy 2years earlier against Coventry,and if the police had opened the gates that day,it would have.Liverpool fans were in no way to blame,as we wouldn't have been either.
