You do realise most of the atheist posters on here have actually been very cordial and not bashing religion. You're just getting frustrated that your recycled arguments arn't being effective.
Don't know about solved per se What has definitely happened is people accept certain things without the same level of scrutiny and present as fact So you get eye is skin light bone ha not bearded white dude Wtf?
Just going off on a tangent, there was an incredible documentary about otters on the other night by Phillipa Forrester's husband (forget his name). What is incredible is that the otter has an adaptation to squeeze the lens of its eye underwater so that it can see crystal clear. I know, this doesn't 'win' any argument about 'who' created that eye, but I praise the non-existent Lord that human beings have the ingenuity and curiosity to find these things out. I stand in awe of nature, however it came about. That's where my spirit gravitates to.
Have they bollox. A couple have tbf but in the main its religion bashing then faux outrage if their beliefs are questioned Same **** different day
No and neither was I ( no pun intended) That's just a hang up you seem to have, and the bearded white dude thing Its not either or, the debates around the eye, and other evolutionary topics, can be discussed evolutionist to evolutionist without religion being part of the equation The fruit fly or black moths theory/example can be turn to shreds without bringing God into it as it fails in its conclusion s
Its funny how some cite science and speak about it's need to discover the truth Whilst all the time they are in fact defending a cause
Is he just an Earth god, or does he control all possible lifeforms and chemical elements on every other planet in the universe? It's a fairly heavy workload to be fair, he should consider outsourcing.
He should get those TMA's from Grenfell that pay themselves £650k each of public money to do a job a clerk on £30k a year and a Nebosh diploma do. At least the clerk didn't avoid any form of responsiblity related to their wage. Whoops, as Ben Elton used to say, getting a bit political there.
Pascal's wager presupposes he chose the correct one, when he rejected all the other gods. Imagine his face when Thor asks him what he wants.
And that you can either trick god or makes yourself believe something that you don't believe. It's one of those things that people bring up, but you never hear anyone say it convinced them to change their minds.
It all seems a bit bizarre that some omnieverything being created us, and makes us pass a test to see if we can stay with them. Why didn't they just make us how they wanted in the first place? It all seems a bit malevolent on the ones that don't pass, and have to spend eternity suffering at the whim of another of his creations.
Look old chap, I have already cited Fr/Dr Higginson who Christened my child, and I'll rattle off a few more: The Muslim surgeon who removed my prostate, the Jewish oncologist that successfully treated my sister's advanced breast cancer, the list of astronauts (my favourite heroes since childhood) such as Aldrin, Duke, McDivitt, Irwin and Cernan, Dr Robert Winston, my favourite mad, commy/Trot history teacher who was a devout Catholic; all have this in common - far, far, more intelligent and scientifically and engineering trained than I could dream of being. I read Dawkins' books because I don't know anyone who describes and explains biology better to layman like me, but there's cleverer people than even him who have faith. What all these people do and have done, from those I've know to those I've read about, is not pin their faith on the idiom that if it can't be explained, it must be God. I don't begrudge you your faith, but do have the good grace to admit that it doesn't have answers to anything except faith itself, and that any logic behind it is a circular as a Michaelangelo hand drawing.. But this I admit: my mother died with her faith and seemed contented, whereas my father died with atheism and raged against the dying of the light. again, I begrudge no-one their faith.
the deity would know the answer before Pascal was even born, as HE travels up and down through time inspecting his project. I'm reminded of the words of Richard Feynman: "It doesn't seem to me that this fantastically marvelous universe, this tremendous range of time and space and different kinds of animals, and all the different planets, and all these atoms with all their motions, and so on, all this complicated thing can merely be a stage so that God can watch human beings struggle for good and evil — which is the view that religion has. The stage is too big for the drama".
Too many mathematics and physics taking place here It's the only way some people can think. Others minds are open to vast possibilities, even those we cant quite understand. I'm going to be hard pushed listening to some scientist trying to explain to me how and why everything happened etc etc and therefore there is no God, yet i'm still waiting to find out what is in 90% of our oceans. I know one thing, there is certainly more than what we have come across.
There's definitely more than we've come across, but science provides far more answers than some old book in a language few can read, that claims a god did it to test his product.
And there it goes again - it's not science's raison d'etre to explain why there's no God, and certainly not by some eternal process of elimination by explaining each and every conundrum from now until the end of time. But there's certainly more evidence to the arguments of science about life, the universe and everything than faith provides for the existence of god.
