Some of it is made up (could leave it here) of Paul's letters to various people, so a fair chance he wrote those bits. Possibly also the Acts of the Apostles. Wasn't the Gospels all written after Christ had been dead for quite some time, not by actual witnesses to his ministry.
Some of it claims to be made up of Paul's letters, but we don't know how accurately they're represented or even if that's true. There aren't any original copies of anything, so it's impossible to check. Some of it was probably written in the 7th century, IIRC.
Most religious books had bits not included. They're mainly written and promoted for political control.
There is accounts of Jesus (as) but not of the crucifixion and so on from first hand eye witnesses and Bible always has to be revised as more is discovered more later additions are found, early Christians were Unitarians and got persecuted and killed for their belief, trinity is an later edition to Christianity.
Good people use religion to do good. Bad people use religion to do bad. Religion isn't responsible for guiding someone's moral compass, it's a tool for acting out what's truly in your nature.
I'm not going to criticise anyone for being a Christian. That said, there are parts that we know are plain wrong and don't make sense. The whole Noah's ark story is frankly ridiculous based on what we know today of the world's fauna and it's distribution and diversity. The whole Jesus birth story is ridiculous too. The whole reason Romans had censuses is the same reason we do, to see who to tax and where to spend money. That the Romans would tell people to go back to where they were from (Joseph to Bethlehem) is absurd and would defeat the whole purpose of a census. We actually have a lot of documents from that period on censuses and they absolutely did not tell people to return to their birth cities. The story was made up to explain why someone born in Jerusalem wasn't born in Bethlehem as had been predicted.
Dont get me wrong i wasnt having a pop at anyone for being Christian, it was another poster having a rant as if the world issues were becuse of religion. The world problems would disappear if they got rid of it all and it somehow made his point more valid and more logical according him because he didnt believe in a "imaginary" God! Logical fallacy of these arguments are unbelievable, especially when they dont live according to their possible belief that your here by chance and only for survival and reproduction...but that's a whole new argument/debate...
Did I say that? You twat. You are going on ignore again. Stupidest **** on this forum by a country mile.
I think that's a little unfair to Kustard and Stan D. Both of whom I would consider to be worthy challengers for the title.
Many people contributed to the writing of the Bible. In fact, the Bible is a diverse collection of writings from about 40 main contributors—30 in the Old Testament and 10 in the New Testament. Some books are actually collections of writings from several authors, not just one. For example, while many people think of David when they think of the book of Psalms, there are individual psalms attributed to Moses, Asaph, a man named Ethan, and the sons of Korah. Old Testament Authors The accounts preserved in the Old Testament—also known as the First Testament or Hebrew Scriptures—go back thousands of years. They were written down and communicated orally. Many regard Moses as the primary human author of the first five books of the Bible, known as the Torah. Regardless of the role others may have played in compiling the Torah, it’s thought that Moses ensured the narratives, genealogies, and law codes were collected and retold faithfully in these five books (which are, after all, known by many Jewish people as the “five books of Moses”). As already mentioned, David is considered the main human author of the Psalms, though others contributed too. David’s son, King Solomon, is credited with writing or inspiring much of Bible’s wisdom literature (Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, etc.). The First Testament also contains oracles from prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Amos, and others. Many of these messages were delivered in person—shouted from street corners, spoken in front of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, or pronounced in the royal courts of Israel and Judah. Only later were these oracles written down, often by the prophets themselves or by their scribes. As time passed, all these writings were collected together into the First Testament. The Jewish people received them as divinely inspired Scripture. NEW TESTAMENT AUTHORS The New Testament consists of stories, teachings, and letters that circulated among the first Christian churches. Letters from apostles like Paul and Peter are among the earliest writings in the New Testament. These letters were meant to be read aloud by communities of believers in specific locations. After the recipients heard the message intended for them, they often memorized it and shared it with neighboring Christian communities. Luke and Acts, a two-volume series on the life of Jesus and the early church, was penned by a physician named Luke, who was also a traveling companion to the apostle Paul. The gospel of Matthew is popularly attributed to a tax collector variously known as Levi or Matthew—though given its content, some think it was written by someone with more training in the Hebrew Scriptures. Mark’s gospel is thought to record the memoirs of Peter, as told through the pen of John Mark. The gospel of John was written by one of Jesus’ closest disciples, giving us an eyewitness account of the Messiah’s life. Make of it what you will.
lol I had him on ignore for years, didnt even know he existed on this forum until a couple months ago, turned out I had stuck him on ignore years back for some transgression or other. Then realised a couple weeks ago that i had some guy on ignore who i couldn't remember, so took him off. Then quickly remembered why the belligerent little ****wit had been put on there in the first place. He is a disgrace.
Basically a new testament was written by Jesus' followers because wanted to reboot the franchise........ But the books contradict each other so much it is ridiculous. Taken as face value, and verbatim......both the Holy Bible and the Glorious Koran are violent, evil books, full of death, destruction. There's passages in the Old Testament on how to punish your wife by poisoning her if she is unfaithful and making sure she does not get pregnant from that affair by basically performing an abortion. There are passages in the Koran that instruct people to go forth and enslave anyone who is non muslim. Nice books these. And 75% of the world believe, or claim to, believe in one of these two batshit books. Just to clarify, my problem is not with Christians, or Muslims. Pretty much every one I know is one or the other. My problem is Christianity and Islam as ideologies. They are both decadent, crazy, unnecessary and have no place on Earth in the 21st Century. I should have been born a couple hundred years later, gonna be a while before they are eradicated completely, but its happening.
why dont you go and read The My Little Pony album? that's got rainbows on the cover. You know football? its worse than most other sports when it comes to greed, fan violence, pettiness, the worst examples of 'normal' folk and they are all over our screens raising our kids with their opinions and actions...but you cant stay away can you? Plus it wasn't enslave every non Muslim, slaves were part of the wars..they still have them nowadays. Britain, right behind the Americans in this...Guantanamo Bay is the most obvious modern day example. Read up on how 'slaves' were treated..i dont want to get into this..tiresome ****...but you cant just go around saying things just because you are the latest trend and the world is your oyster today ..i.e a capitalist Athiest...i bet you are sat in your Temple(office) right now, summoning your lord(payday) Religion wont be eradicated, pwomise. lol
I don't get why people think this is a real story, it's fiction and cleary a tale used to guide you morally this would be the case with a lot of OT stories. They didn't actually happen, does anyone still actually claim that?
That's hilarious. Not as hilarious as the paragraph before it, but hilarious nonetheless. Look at the world Iggy, religion is on its way out, has been for hundreds of years. I don't want to argue with you either mate. Not sure where you got the capitalist part from either...... I am certainly Atheist though. I have no problems with you as an individual, or your culture (which I grew up around), but religion is a problem that needs to be solved, and is being solved.
