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Dr Steve Pieczenik - Bin Laden + 9/11 (Must See)

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    eddieveeee New Member

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    DEV - Al Qaeda?

    Have you not been listening? Al Qaeda does not exist as an organisation. It is a CIA Database. Non existant never ending wars need a fake enemy and that is Al Qaeda. Literally translated as the base.

    Wake the **** up please
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    [video=youtube;r-hYorNi0nA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-hYorNi0nA[/video]
     
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    Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.

    "I first heard about Al-Qaida while I was attending the Command and Staff course in Jordan. I was a French officer at that time and the French Armed Forces had close contacts and cooperation with Jordan . . .

    "Two of my Jordanian colleagues were experts in computers. They were air defense officers. Using computer science slang, they introduced a series of jokes about students' punishment.

    "For example, when one of us was late at the bus stop to leave the Staff College, the two officers used to tell us: 'You'll be noted in 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' which meant 'You'll be logged in the information database.' Meaning 'You will receive a warning . . .' If the case was more severe, they would used to talk about 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Meaning 'the decision database.' It meant 'you will be punished.' For the worst cases they used to speak of logging in 'Al Qaida.'

    "In the early 1980s the Islamic Bank for Development, which is located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, like the Permanent Secretariat of the Islamic Conference Organization, bought a new computerized system to cope with its accounting and communication requirements. At the time the system was more sophisticated than necessary for their actual needs.

    "It was decided to use a part of the system's memory to host the Islamic Conference's database. It was possible for the countries attending to access the database by telephone: an Intranet, in modern language. The governments of the member-countries as well as some of their embassies in the world were connected to that network.

    "[According to a Pakistani major] the database was divided into two parts, the information file where the participants in the meetings could pick up and send information they needed, and the decision file where the decisions made during the previous sessions were recorded and stored. In Arabic, the files were called, 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' and 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic 'Q eidat ilmu'ti'aat' which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for "base." The military air base of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia is called 'q eidat 'riyadh al 'askariya.' Q eida means "a base" and "Al Qaida" means "the base."

    "In the mid-1980s, Al Qaida was a database located in computer and dedicated to the communications of the Islamic Conference's secretariat.

    "In the early 1990s, I was a military intelligence officer in the Headquarters of the French Rapid Action Force. Because of my skills in Arabic my job was also to translate a lot of faxes and letters seized or intercepted by our intelligence services . . . We often got intercepted material sent by Islamic networks operating from the UK or from Belgium.

    "These documents contained directions sent to Islamic armed groups in Algeria or in France. The messages quoted the sources of statements to be exploited in the redaction of the tracts or leaflets, or to be introduced in video or tapes to be sent to the media. The most commonly quoted sources were the United Nations, the non-aligned countries, the UNHCR and . . . Al Qaida.

    "Al Qaida remained the data base of the Islamic Conference. Not all member countries of the Islamic Conference are 'rogue states' and many Islamic groups could pick up information from the databases. It was but natural for Osama Bin Laden to be connected to this network. He is a member of an important family in the banking and business world.

    "Because of the presence of 'rogue states,' it became easy for terrorist groups to use the email of the database. Hence, the email of Al Qaida was used, with some interface system, providing secrecy, for the families of the mujaheddin to keep links with their children undergoing training in Afghanistan, or in Libya or in the Beqaa valley, Lebanon. Or in action anywhere in the battlefields where the extremists sponsored by all the 'rogue states' used to fight. And the 'rogue states' included Saudi Arabia. When Osama bin Laden was an American agent in Afghanistan, the Al Qaida Intranet was a good communication system through coded or covert messages.

    Meet "Al Qaeda"

    "Al Qaida was neither a terrorist group nor Osama bin Laden's personal property . . . The terrorist actions in Turkey in 2003 were carried out by Turks and the motives were local and not international, unified, or joint. These crimes put the Turkish government in a difficult position vis-a-vis the British and the Israelis. But the attacks certainly intended to 'punish' Prime Minister Erdogan for being a 'toot tepid' Islamic politician.

    " . . . In the Third World the general opinion is that the countries using weapons of mass destruction for economic purposes in the service of imperialism are in fact 'rogue states," specially the US and other NATO countries.

    " Some Islamic economic lobbies are conducting a war against the 'liberal" economic lobbies. They use local terrorist groups claiming to act on behalf of Al Qaida. On the other hand, national armies invade independent countries under the aegis of the UN Security Council and carry out pre-emptive wars. And the real sponsors of these wars are not governments but the lobbies concealed behind them.

    "The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the 'TV watcher' to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money."

    In yet another example of what happens to those who challenge the system, in December 2001, Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel was convicted by a secret French military court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998. Bunel's case was transferred from a civilian court to keep the details of the case classified. Bunel's character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system "got him" for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group. It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements of "Al Qaeda." We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

    French officer Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel, who knew the truth about "Al Qaeda" -- Another target of the neo-cons
     
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    Haven't bothered ploughing through 28 pages of this, but do I need my tinfoil hat?
     
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    Yes. And then some <ok>
     
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    I'd just move into a tin house if I were you <ok>
     
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    Lead would be better, that'll really mess up those pesky mind control rays.
     
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    Eddieveeee

    I would like your opinion on the following conspiracies;

    1. Man landing on the moon

    2. Princess Diana was murdered by the Royal Family

    3. Global warming won't happen

    4. JFK assasination

    5. UFO in Roswell
     
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    Don't forget that Anders Breivik being one of the Lizard People <ok>
     
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    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator Staff Member

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    And the one about Weetabix and other "brand-name" cereals being made by exactly the same people who make Tesco/Asda/Sainsbury's cereal?
     
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    <yikes>
     
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    You're through the looking-glass now, Dev.
     
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    1. I believe they did land on the moon but its wierd that they have never been back. Not really looked into it tbh but dont know of any reason why it couldnt have been done.

    2. No idea

    3. The planet is warming, thats a fact.

    4. JFK was murdered by forces within the govermnent and intelligence agencies, Harvey Oswald was a patsy.

    5. Something crashed there, dont know enough about it to have any sort of opinion on it.

    You think im some sort of conspiracy theorist who likes conspiracys, I can assure, there is nothing about 9/11 that I like. But I have spent literally hundreds of hours on the subject and I have come to my own conclusions from looking at all the evidence.
     
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    So Eddie it's all a massive conspiracy by the western world to have us belive that AL Qaeda exist?

    Not only did the CIA make it all up but every European country's govennment have been conned too?
     
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    No I dont believe every government has been conned, its not like its the CIA who are running things. Its the global elite who own all mainstream media in the western world, who own the banks, who own the UN, who control the CIA, who decide who will be president. The power and wealth of the world is in the hands of a few and they are not in the public eye. I dont claim to know exactly what is going down and what the great plan is but I know enough.

    I dont have enough evidence and probably never will to say what I think is happening without being called crazy. But the evidence is all there to prove that 9/11 was a false flag attack, and its there for the London bombings aswell.
     
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    Eddie, I have watched countless documantaries about 9/11 and read many articles, I don't believe for a minute that 9/11 was not carried out by the people named. Likewise I don't believe that Al Qaeda do not exist and that they are a fabrication of the CIA. If they were i'm pretty sure other intelligence agencies in the west would have blown the whistle.
     
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    Eddieveeee, let me tell you how it went down.

    1. Man landing on the moon - Never happened, recording in a Hollywood movie studio. Actors and camermen murdered straight after.

    2. Princess Diana was murdered by the Royal Family - Parisan gunman hired by Phil & Liz. Guman was walked straight after.

    3. Global warming won't happen - Al Gore pushing this lie to make millions of $ in book deals and dinner party events.

    4. JFK assasination - Joint CIA & Mafia atatck to stop nuclear war.

    5. UFO in Roswell - CIA have been learning all the secrets from this aircraft for years now. Dead alien inside spaceship resembled Alf.
     
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